Storm Commando CRL Specs Needed

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Storm Commando CRL Specs Needed; Help define the official 501st Specs
Topic Started: Jul 25 2007, 04:58 AM (1,775 Views)
COS_Vader	Jul 25 2007, 04:58 AM Post #1
Detachment Leader Posts: 1,603 Group: Supporter Member #1 Joined: June 1, 2005	The Det Leadership team is currently working costume specs for the Legion Costume Reference Library. We'll need something like this format for the Storm Commando and I'd like to see professional, high resolution pics of front, back, and both sides so GMLs can easily approve the costume. As there are two versions of the Storm Commando (black version of the Bikerscout and the alternate, idealized version, I'd like to see both versions represented. STEALTH TROOPER or BLACK HOLE TROOPER A Stealth Trooper MUST have the following: - Black, glossy professional-quality Stormtrooper armor (made of ABS, HIPS, Styrene, or Fiberglass). Repainting white TK armor is currently NOT recommended, and if you do, it must NEVER, EVER show white. - Plain black gloves with no visible logos or ornamental stitching (Preferrably leather, but can be rubber or Jersey-style cloth). - Black one-piece or two piece undersuit with no visible logos. Non-textured material. Commonly used items include “UnderArmor” or “Starter” warm-up suits, or dance unitards. Dark midnight blue is under consideration, but not approved yet. - Black "Chelsea-style" ankle high, laceless boots. Boots may be Leather or Vinyl preferrably with small U-shaped elastic sections on either side of the ankle, and up to a 1” heel. - Opaque flat or bubbled helmet lenses, colored either black, dark smoke, silver, or dark green. An observer must not be able to see your eyes through the helmet. - Plain black ammo belt, either ABS, HIPS, Styrene, elastic or canvas fabric. (Observe rules on thermal detonator/ammo pouches when carrying a BFG). Any metal snaps (if used in lieu of black Velcro) must be black. - Movie-accurate Blaster. Preferrably weathered, and may be an E-11 or BFG. MG-34 (DLT19), Lewis Gun (T21), or MG-15 (unnamed in SW galaxy). These prop weapons may be a modified toy blaster (i.e. Hasbro), scratch-built, resin cast, hyperfirm rubber cast, vaccuformed, MR, or real demilitarized guns. It's imperitive that it cannot fire a projectile and if you are asked by your CO not to bring it to an event, please comply. - Black heavy vinyl or leather E-11 holster with black snaps and stitching is to be worn only when an E-11 is carried. - Silver or dark gray helmet frown. Black is currently under consideration. - Dark gray helmet decals. Black is under consideration. - Black or dark blue helmet tube stripes. - Black Velcro, preferrably Industrial. White Velcro (if used - highly not recommended) must never be visible. - Black canvas or elastic suspenders/straps/harness system (if used). Any clips or adjustment loops (black plastic fast-back clips are highly recommended) on your suspenders/straps/harness system must also be black. - Any teeth cut out of helmet frown for ventilation must be backed with black screen material so any observer cannot see your mouth. OPTIONAL Stealth Trooper Modifications (Accepted, but not required) - Rank Pauldron (Black, Grey, Orange, or White). Made from heavy vinyl or leather. - Black Leather, Vinyl, or Canvas Ammunition Pouches (MP40, MP38, or similarly styled) Worn on the left shoulder, and optionally also on the belt. Ammo pouches may only be worn when a BFG is carried. - Black weathered macrobinoculars. Styled after those used in the Special Edition. - No thermal detonator when carrying a BFG (ammo pouch is worn instead) - Black ANH Stormtrooper-style ComLink - Hinged cod piece and butt-plate. - Helmet CPU fans. - Voice amplifier and/or voice effect board w/optional Static Burst. - Black Hovi-Mix cast “tusks” - Four “teeth” cut out and backed with black screen on either side of helmet “frown”. - Weathered armor is currently under consideration (Sandtrooper-style), but armor must still be glossy under the weathering. Commence the debate and we'll see what we can come up with.



Cujo	Jul 26 2007, 06:11 AM Post #2
TX 1332 Posts: 171 Group: Members Member #252 Joined: January 19, 2007	I um, thought the Storm Commando was a black Biker Scout. If so...why do we have the Black Hole Trooper Specs in this forum?



Nolak	Jul 26 2007, 10:46 AM Post #3
Stealth Trooper, Storm Commando, Shadowtrooper Moderator Posts: 105 Group: Supporter Member #290 Joined: May 16, 2007	Cujo Jul 26 2007, 03:11 AM I um, thought the Storm Commando was a black Biker Scout. If so...why do we have the Black Hole Trooper Specs in this forum? Vader just put the Blackhole specs up to show the formt we need to go by. I've actually started working on this project but I'm trying to dig up as much "official" reference first before I post anything. If anyone has any Storm Commando pics (both versions) please share. Thanks.



COS_Vader	Jul 26 2007, 02:24 PM Post #4
Detachment Leader Posts: 1,603 Group: Supporter Member #1 Joined: June 1, 2005	Spec pics have already been posted to this forum, but I fear you'll have to dig them out. One is just the all-black bikerscout and the other is the scout with some custom pieces, including the vader shins from the old West End Games scout. Either way, it'll be two different costume specs.



COS_Vader	Jan 29 2008, 07:18 PM Post #5
Detachment Leader Posts: 1,603 Group: Supporter Member #1 Joined: June 1, 2005	Gang, We need to get the CRL specs out on this costume. Brainstorm and use the template example posted above. Kev



Arakus	Jan 30 2008, 04:27 AM Post #6
Member Posts: 19 Group: Members Member #351 Joined: August 26, 2007	I like Apollo's version he suggested back in February 07: Storm Commando Costume Specifications Version 1- Requirements -An all black Biker Scout. No modifications to the armor or soft parts are needed at all except that it must be glossy black Options -Vader shin armor may be used Version 2 (elite) -Black Biker Scout upper torso armor, back armor, belt, backpack, shoulder bells, knees and helmet. Preferably made with Abs for glossy quality but other materials are accepted -Either 1 or 2 piece black undersuit. Underarmor (with logos hidden) or diving suits are common -Black gloves with minimal stitching. Gauntlet style is acceptable but must be tucked into forearm armor. Stormtrooper gloves are also acceptable. -Smooth black boots. They should have no ornamental stitching or other adornment of any kind unless specified. If taller than ankle height they must be tucked under shin armor. No laces, buckles, Velcro, or any kind of securing device may be visible. -Black Biker Scout cummerbund with pouches. -Smooth black forearm armor -Smooth cod armor that curves inward as it goes down and does not extend horizontally past the groin. It should reach from the utility belt to the point where the pant legs meet. Or a segment of smooth armor covering the entire pelvic region. -Either an E-11, MG-34, or other Imperial issue rifle. No BFGs. -E-11 should be holstered in a standard stormtrooper holster. -Bicep armor should be either standard black stormtrooper style or biker scout style. -Either a neckseal (ribbed or smooth) or a black balaclava -Stormtrooper style thigh armor Approved Options -Red reflective helmet lens -2 red bandoliers crossing in the front and back. These should have hard ammo packs and look much like Chewbacca’s but with electronic portions near the buckles (see picture) -red buckle on belt (I took these from a storm commando in one of the comics that’s been posted for reference a couple of times. I’m not sure if this is what’s meant by “approved options” or if it should even be approved but I figured I’d post it A Storm Commando Should Have (recommended but not required) -Stormtrooper style handplates -A Biker Scout style sidearm -Boot armor resembling that worn by Jango Fett -All hard armor should be glossy to represent “reflec coating”. This can be done with gloss clear coat, the use of abs plastic, or any other way that produces the desired result A Storm Commando may have (accepted but not required) -A seam running along the inside of the forearm armor with a knob resembling a computer key near the inside of the elbow -Thigh armor resembling that worn by Jango Fett which would only cover the front half of the leg. It would be attached with ribbed straps running around the back This is what I've been trying to assemble for the last year.



Peregrinus	Jan 30 2008, 05:01 AM Post #7
Advanced Member Posts: 111 Group: Members Member #236 Joined: December 1, 2006	Thought we had these worked out, boss. What's wrong with the specs worked out a couple months ago? --Jonah



Nocturne	Mar 7 2008, 03:34 PM Post #8
Advanced Member Posts: 125 Group: Members Member #89 Joined: March 31, 2006	Is this now the final definiation of the costume specs? (I still have issues with some of it you see) Jango thighs? Hell no! it's custom! Jango boot armour? Hell no! it's custom! TK Hand armour? Hell no! It's custom! Otherwise I'm happyish with it all. I just wanna know whether we're at the final definition now or not?



COS_Vader	Mar 7 2008, 11:44 PM Post #9
Detachment Leader Posts: 1,603 Group: Supporter Member #1 Joined: June 1, 2005	Problem is, someone has to "DO" the armor before it's accepted. Without pics, it's all hypothetical.



Peregrinus	Mar 8 2008, 12:54 AM Post #10
Advanced Member Posts: 111 Group: Members Member #236 Joined: December 1, 2006	Yup. I say until someone (like me) has made pieces accurate to the Mark I drawing, the Jango/TK pieces ought to be considered acceptable substitutes. Hey, Boss, you seemed to be interested in an accurate original Commando, but you haven't piped up on my interest thread. Wasn't sure if I should keep you in mind for a set or not. Lemme know, huh? --Jonah



COS_Vader	Mar 8 2008, 12:57 AM Post #11
Detachment Leader Posts: 1,603 Group: Supporter Member #1 Joined: June 1, 2005	Depends on price, brother. I'm not rich, but I can save if it'll fit me. I'm 6'4", so most BS armor doesn't fit me.



Nocturne	Mar 10 2008, 02:06 PM Post #12
Advanced Member Posts: 125 Group: Members Member #89 Joined: March 31, 2006	Then I'll have to get my ass into gear and finish my armour! Thanks.



COS_Vader	Sep 9 2008, 08:12 PM Post #13
Detachment Leader Posts: 1,603 Group: Supporter Member #1 Joined: June 1, 2005	Storm Commando/Imperial Commando/Shadow Scout CRL BASE STANDARDS - Black version of Biker Scout (Same as BSN standards, but black armor) - Gloss/Semi-Gloss/Weathered Black Biker Scout helmet (Don Post/Rubies repainted or fan-made replica acceptable) The following modifications are required for the DP/Rubies helmet: * Remove the logo on the back neck * Repaint bucket gloss black * Replace lens (green/smoke/black/mirrored - You MUST NOT be able to see your eyes when the helmet is on) * Slim facemask if it's flared * Replace inaccurate "fish hook" * Replace bolts on visor/bucket * Replace aerator - Black matte textile long sleeve coveralls or flight suit. - Black textile Stormtrooper-style neck seal (You must never be able to see your neck) - Black leather or vinyl textureless gauntlet style motorcycle gloves. No extra straps, buckles, or ornamental stitching. Ribbing over knuckles should be present. - Black, non-shiny textile cummerbund with two standard Imperial pouches. - Black textureless or near-textureless vinyl/leather calf-high laceless boots. Wrap over bridge of foot must be present. Soles of boot must have black tread. - Black gloss/semi-gloss/weathered ABS or fiberglass chest armor. Gray/Dark Gray rectangular mark on left chest must be present. - Black gloss/semi-gloss/weathered back plate with tank. Tank must have pinstripe deco and anywhere from 4-6 "rank stripes" on right side of tank. Black tank topper must be present, but the red square "button" is optional. No permanent flashing lights or LED's are acceptable anywhere on the costume. - Black gloss/semi-gloss/weathered ABS or fiberglass shoulder bells, bicep armor, and elbow armor. Bicep armor must have black t-bits. - Black gloss/semi-gloss/weathered belt. 2" webbing belt with buckle and 4 utility case combination attached to the front. Thermal detonator box using gray hosing is attached at the rear of the belt. No permanent flashing lights, or colored marking other than black bits are acceptable. - Black gloss/semi-gloss/weathered ABS or fiberglass knee armor. - Black gloss/semi-gloss/weathered ABS or fiberglass boot holster fastened to boots with either Velcro or rivets. Strap attachment is NOT acceptable. - Boot holster and Holdout blaster. - Dirty modifications are allowed (Weathering) Optional (accepted, but not required) - DLT20a sniper rifle - Concept Scout Rifle - MG-34 Version 2 (elite) -Black Biker Scout ABS or fiberglass upper torso armor, back armor, belt, backpack, shoulder bells, knees and helmet. -Either 1 or 2 piece black textile undersuit. Underarmor (with logos hidden) or diving suits are common -Black gloves with minimal stitching. Gauntlet style is acceptable but must be tucked into forearm armor. Stormtrooper gloves are also acceptable. -Smooth black boots. They should have no ornamental stitching or other adornment of any kind unless specified. If taller than ankle height they must be tucked under shin armor. No laces, buckles, Velcro, or any kind of securing device may be visible. -Black textile Biker Scout cummerbund with pouches. -Smooth black ABS or fiberglass forearm armor -Smooth cod armor that curves inward as it goes down and does not extend horizontally past the groin. It should reach from the utility belt to the point where the pant legs meet. Or a segment of smooth armor covering the entire pelvic region. -Bicep armor should be either standard black stormtrooper style or biker scout style. -Either a neckseal (ribbed or smooth) or a black balaclava -Black ABS/Fiberglass Stormtrooper-style thigh armor Approved Options -Red opaque or reflective helmet lens (You must not be able to see your eyes when helmet is on) -2 red bandoliers crossing in the front and back. These should have hard ammo packs and look much like Chewbacca’s but with electronic portions near the buckles (see picture) -red buckle on belt (I took these from a storm commando in one of the comics that’s been posted for reference a couple of times. I’m not sure if this is what’s meant by “approved options” or if it should even be approved but I figured I’d post it A Storm Commando Should Have (recommended but not required) -Black Stormtrooper style handplates -A Biker Scout sidearm -Black shin armor resembling that worn by Jango Fett -All hard armor should be glossy to represent “reflec coating”. This can be done with gloss clear coat, the use of abs plastic, or any other way that produces the desired result A Storm Commando may have (accepted but not required) -A seam running along the inside of the forearm armor with a knob resembling a computer key near the inside of the elbow -Black thigh armor resembling that worn by Jango Fett which would only cover the front half of the leg. It would be attached with black elastic/fabric/leather straps running around the back Discuss... Edited by COS_Vader, Sep 9 2008, 08:21 PM.



Naglium	Oct 14 2008, 10:50 PM Post #14
Newbie Posts: 2 Group: Members Member #462 Joined: March 23, 2008	is this the official CRL for a black biker scout?



Nocturne	Oct 15 2008, 01:15 PM Post #15
Advanced Member Posts: 125 Group: Members Member #89 Joined: March 31, 2006	I hope not - I have issues with it. Issues i've discussed in the past, but if that's what they say - that's what they say.


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