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| Galactic Alliance Guard; Does it go here? | |
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| Topic Started: Jul 27 2007, 06:42 AM (815 Views) | |
| Ceric Neesh | Jul 27 2007, 06:42 AM Post #1 |
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Okay, so GAG troopers have no visual reference, and only a tiny bit in the LOTF series so far, so here's my question: Do they go here? They're definitely Spec. Ops. And no, they're not Rebel Legion, because 1) Galactic Alliance is both Empire and New Republic, and 2) "Secret Police" are definitely Empire-esque. I'm wondering because I'm working on one, based on the little bit of info we've got of them so far, and my imagination, and I'm wondering where it would go. Or will this be a case of my costume being legion standard until illustrations come out looking completely different? (This one would be ironic, as I can't be officially legion-approved for another year and a half, though the costume itself could be for the purposes of reference). And finally, would I get a TX-C ID when I finish it and post pics? Seeing as how it's not official membership anyway, I'd think that age wouldn't be a factor either. |
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| crazas | Jul 27 2007, 02:45 PM Post #2 |
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Our detachment holds together all Expanded Universe troopers that works for the Empire. With the new LOTF series of comics we have a small problem, as you wrote, they're in a junction of both sides, BUT, Imperial Knigths are already accepted into the Legion so I think those troopers are going to have no problem getting accepted too. |
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| COS_Vader | Jul 28 2007, 12:37 AM Post #3 |
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Unless they're specifically Troopers, they probably belong with Flagship Eclipse's Det. I'll check for you... |
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| Ceric Neesh | Jul 28 2007, 03:29 PM Post #4 |
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Alright, thanks. I'll need a link, though... |
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| COS_Vader | Jul 30 2007, 03:48 PM Post #5 |
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I checked with Flagship Eclipse and they seem to be even more cryptic. The one thing you'll need is a visual reference for it to be considered by the Legion, and they technically want three visual references (which was a real pain when I worked to get the Omega Squad Republic Commandos approved). Are they described in enough detail to do a costume and do you have an idea or sketch of how you'd like to see them. Chances are, they'll be protrayed somewhere artwork-wise, so keep looking for reference material and you're more than welcome to work it here. Kev |
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| Ceric Neesh | Jul 30 2007, 05:50 PM Post #6 |
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Well, I've just asked the people in the Karen Traviss Yahoo Group for any reference stuff that they've got for me from the books and all, and I'm fairly sure that Karen'll post something, since she loves to see costumes of characters she's written about. Basically, what I've gathered so far is that they wear black military fatigues, which I've already got on order for my Mando anyway, and are armed with a blaster rifle (which I've envisioned as being rather sleek and concealable, instead of your standard bulky blaster) and a stun baton. They wear black helmets with visors, though they are semi-open faced. My current plans for it have me using black cargo pants (near identical to military BDUs, but a lot cheaper and a long-sleeved black t-shirt for the main part. Over the t-shirt, I'm wearing this paintball chest protector, with the logo removed. It looks really body-armor-ish, but without being too restricting. The blaster rifle is a modified pressure washer rifle that's got two different attachments, so it can either be a sniper rifle or a carbine. I'm planning on adding a scope and "power pack" to it, but it'll remain relatively clean to go with the look I'm going for . For my neck, I'm wearing a plain black t-shirt (tag removed) around my neck, with the sleeves tied so that I can pull it over my head and have only my eyes showing. I'm using a paintball mask visor for the visor in the helmet (modified skateboarding helmet that's looking more like the AT-ST driver helmets, but with easily identifiable differences), and I've also come up with the idea of having an alternate, full-face version, since some of the Guard would want to be even less identifiable than what the visor gives them. So I'm using this for the full-face version, with some slight modifications to remove the sculpted ridges on the sides and such. If the visors aren't dark enough, I'll just tint them darker. I'm making the stun baton and a comlink out of an old fishing rod handle and the first foot and a half or so of the rod (the rest is broken and missing). The handle's long enough that the bottom of it will become my comlink, and the top of it will become my stun baton, probably with some sort of sink fixture on the bottom of it to cap off the cut where I seperated it from the comlink part. All of this is attaching to a military surplus pistol belt that's decorated with a bunch of other law enforcment and military pouches (all black), some of which carry other stuff, like my keys or wallet or MACE (Yes, I carry mace with me. It never hurts to be at least slightly protected), and I'm also waiting for a holster for my airsoft DC-15s that I made. I'll have pics up eventually, my brother's on a mission trip and has my camera with him. I think my favorite thing about the DCs (I made two, one for this costume, one for my non-existent RC, and I'll probably do a third soon for my Mando) is that I had started with a clear plastic airsoft gun instead of a black one, so I managed to open the case up and install a bright blue LED that's hooked up to what was formerly the clip (it'll still work, but the "clip" that I use has been modified and now holds a nice, tall stack of button cell batteries that I use to power the LED. When one runs out, I just pull the clip out, the old battery just falls out, and the next one pops into position from inside it. And yes, I do pick up the used batteries, or switch it over a garbage can.), so that it glows like the game ones do. The one for this outfit looks really beat up, but otherwise in good condition, as you'd expect a relic of over 50 years of life to look (Little homage to Shan's fondness for old tech from the Wess'Har Wars novels: If it does the job, why upgrade?). Once again, nonstandard equipment, but then again, why wouldn't a special forces agent carry more than the standard, if he's allowed and it's not extra trouble for him? I'm gonna get gloves eventually, but they've never actually been stated as wearing them (though I'd think that they do, for the most part), and if Karen tells me that I need them, I'll just use my friend's fingerless gloves (they're sniper-style. Lets you have free fingertips for typing, delicate adjustments, etc. while still protecting your hand. Elbow and knee pads are also being considered. A couple other things that I'm thinking about adding are a pair of handcuffs that look like a couple of incarnations of stun cuffs that I've seen, and a radio headset, complete with the coil wire, over-ear earpiece, and tiny little boom mike, all connected to a small two-way radio on my belt that'll actually work. I'm planning on equipping any costume I do with it, and having the handler(s) working an event also have another radio, set to the same channel, so that if we need them, we can let them know. In addition, I'm working on a hardware version of Jacen's saber, and if my girlfriend will let me, I'm thinking about growing my hair out a bit to better match Jacen's and shaving, and then swapping the helmet for a cloak. Currently, there's no visual refernce at all, but I might be able to get Karen's help with that, either with a through enough description that I'd be allowed to troop in it, or by "convincing" someone at LF or wherever to produce a couple of canon images of them. Any ideas on how to improve on it? P.S.= Sorry for such a long post. |
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| COS_Vader | Jul 30 2007, 08:01 PM Post #7 |
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Karen may have some artist concept sketches from LFL that you "might" be able to use. She's a bit bogged down in finishing publisher edits for True Colors right now, but I'm certain I can find out for you as she's a good friend of mine.
 Hopefully she'll have something to use as a reference when she's done with the new book - just be patient a little longer. |
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| Ceric Neesh | Jul 31 2007, 04:41 PM Post #8 |
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Sounds good to me, and she'll probably at least post something on the GAG thread in her Yahoo! Group. |
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| tavrikgannon | Aug 13 2007, 11:50 PM Post #9 |
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This costume sounds like it could be the next generation of the New Republic's NRSF's (New Republic Security Force). If anyone has any old West End Games Star Wars Role-Playing Game books on hand, there is an illistration in one of them. I have it at home, but the title escapes me. I think it may be the Mos Eiseley Starport... or something along those lines. I don't have a scanner, but I will look up the book title and page if anyone is interested. - Ok, I went home and went through my book. It wasn't anything related to Mos Eiseley at all. The book was West End Games Star Wars "The New Republic" Galaxy Guide 11: Criminal Organizations. There is an illustration if the NRSF on page 93. I should also note that before the New Republic took over, the Empire had what was called "Sector Rangers". And of those Sector Rangers there were special elite officers called "Special Enforcement Officers" that pretty much took on the roll of intergalactic police. Both Sector Rangers and NRSF's were their respective side's answer to maintaining law and order without having to use the regular military. Information pertaining to the Sector Rangers and the Special Enforcement Officers can be found in the same book on pages 90-93. There is an illustration or two of these guys as well. So, if anyone has this book they can see the references. If not, I may be able to get scans of them and email them out, should anyone be interested. Just let me know via PM or private email. - Bill mgunner75@yahoo.com So, perhaps the Galactic Alliance Guard is a descendant of thse to groups??? |
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| Ceric Neesh | Sep 7 2007, 03:19 AM Post #10 |
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Thanks for pointing me over there. The NRSF agent looks to be very close to what I'm thinking of. The shoulder armor's not something I had thought of, but it looks like it'd work very well. The knees look like maybe umpire shin guards from baseball or something. The boots are pretty close to what I'm already planning on using. I'll definitely incorporate that into my costume. |
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| tavrikgannon | Sep 8 2007, 02:46 AM Post #11 |
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Yeah, if you look closely at those boots, they resemble the French double-buckle boots from WWII. So you got a reference pic ok, then? I can scan a pic a post it if there is a call for it. |
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| Ceric Neesh | Sep 27 2007, 02:01 AM Post #12 |
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Wookiepedia. So much easier than scanning it and all. |
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