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| Topic Started: Aug 27 2007, 03:51 AM (281 Views) | |
| Arakus | Aug 27 2007, 03:51 AM Post #1 |
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Hello! I'm brand new to the forums and was trying to make sure I designed my new storm commando costume to meet the 501st specifications. I found this post from "Apollo" back in February and wanted to know if this is the current specs accepted by the 501st: Version 1- Requirements -An all black Biker Scout. No modifications to the armor or soft parts are needed at all except that it must be glossy black Options -Vader shin armor may be used Version 2 (elite) -Black Biker Scout upper torso armor, back armor, belt, backpack, shoulder bells, knees and helmet. Preferably made with Abs for glossy quality but other materials are accepted -Either 1 or 2 piece black undersuit. Underarmor (with logos hidden) or diving suits are common -Black gloves with minimal stitching. Gauntlet style is acceptable but must be tucked into forearm armor. Stormtrooper gloves are also acceptable. -Smooth black boots. They should have no ornamental stitching or other adornment of any kind unless specified. If taller than ankle height they must be tucked under shin armor. No laces, buckles, Velcro, or any kind of securing device may be visible. -Black Biker Scout cummerbund with pouches. -Smooth black forearm armor -Smooth cod armor that curves inward as it goes down and does not extend horizontally past the groin. It should reach from the utility belt to the point where the pant legs meet. Or a segment of smooth armor covering the entire pelvic region. -Either an E-11, MG-34, or other Imperial issue rifle. No BFGs. -E-11 should be holstered in a standard stormtrooper holster. -Bicep armor should be either standard black stormtrooper style or biker scout style. -Either a neckseal (ribbed or smooth) or a black balaclava -Stormtrooper style thigh armor Approved Options -Red reflective helmet lens -2 red bandoliers crossing in the front and back. These should have hard ammo packs and look much like Chewbacca’s but with electronic portions near the buckles (see picture) -red buckle on belt (I took these from a storm commando in one of the comics that’s been posted for reference a couple of times. I’m not sure if this is what’s meant by “approved options” or if it should even be approved but I figured I’d post it A Storm Commando Should Have (recommended but not required) -Stormtrooper style handplates -A Biker Scout style sidearm -Boot armor resembling that worn by Jango Fett -All hard armor should be glossy to represent “reflec coating”. This can be done with gloss clear coat, the use of abs plastic, or any other way that produces the desired result A Storm Commando may have (accepted but not required) -A seam running along the inside of the forearm armor with a knob resembling a computer key near the inside of the elbow -Thigh armor resembling that worn by Jango Fett which would only cover the front half of the leg. It would be attached with ribbed straps running around the back Thanks for any help you guys can provide...appreciate it |
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| crazas | Aug 27 2007, 07:28 AM Post #2 |
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As far as I know, the Storm Commando specs are not yet official. |
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| DZ 1641 | Aug 27 2007, 09:10 AM Post #3 |
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There are still discussions about what we want to make official. |
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| tavrikgannon | Aug 27 2007, 06:00 PM Post #4 |
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In my humble opinion, I still disagree with the armor being glossy. To my knowledge "reflec coating" has never been explained as to whether it was glossy (shiney) or matted. Personally, I would think that since a Storm Commando is an elite commando that requires stealth tactics and concealment, the idea of his armor being glossy for all the world to see smacks of contradiction in terms. But this is an argument that has been made before. Steath troopers, be they Black Hole or Storm Commando shouldn't have shiney reflective armor. One might as well paint a bull's eye on his chest and shout, "here I am!" Me personally, I am going the matted route. I don't what the consensus view is. It isn't official yet, so that is the way I am going with it. And if I never get my TX designation for my Storm Commando costume, so be it. I am a TI anyway. By the way, these are some of the best costumes that I have seen. Does anyone know who these guys are? If anyone knows them, I'd love to pick their collective brain in regard to the costume.  |
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| SpitFireScout | Aug 27 2007, 07:17 PM Post #5 |
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Search the 501st's Special ops http://www.vadersfist.com/ , i can't seem to get a link directly to his image, but its under costuming - special ops - and he is the one second row on the far left, german garrison. I'm positive this is him, same armor, same gun. He's in the german garrison, i loved his armor when i first saw it, very cool. I agree with your thoughts on matte vs. glossy. i'm personally a fan of both but lean more towards the matte myself. As well with this guy being a member of the 501st, makes me confident that matte armor (atleast for the storm commando) is okay. |
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| COS_Vader | Aug 27 2007, 07:27 PM Post #6 |
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I'd support both specs, glossy and matte. As a Legion approved Republic Commando, I went as far as working with Karen Traviss and the CT.net team to establish the "non-glossy" specs for the Omega Squad RC. The problem lies within the EU continuity - it's hard to find "matte" pics and drawings for the Storm Commando, but I will say if "I" was a spec ops biker, my armor wouldn't be glossy at all. Let's see if we can get both versions approved by the LMO. Please take the specs posted above and add your suggestions (and proof pics) so we can get the specs approved. Here's my crack at it... Version 1 - Requirements -An all-black Biker Scout. No modifications to the armor or soft parts are needed at all except the hard armor parts must be either all glossy OR all matte black. Optional -Vader shin armor may be used Version 2 (elite) -Black Biker Scout upper torso armor, back armor, belt, backpack, shoulder bells, knees and helmet. Armor preferrably made of ABS colored either black gloss or matte black. Other armor materials are accepted, but they must be professional quality and durable for repeated troops. -Either 1 or 2 piece matte black undersuit. Underarmor (with logos hidden) or diving suits are acceptable -Black gloves (leather, vinyl, or heavy cloth) with utilitarian stitching (no ornamental stiching permitted). Gauntlet style is acceptable but must be tucked into forearm armor. Stormtrooper gloves are also acceptable. -Smooth black boots. They should have no ornamental stitching or other adornment of any kind unless specified. If taller than ankle height they must be tucked under shin armor. No laces, buckles, Velcro, or any kind of securing device may be visible. -Black Biker Scout cummerbund with pouches. -Smooth black forearm armor -Smooth cod armor that curves inward as it goes down and does not extend horizontally past the groin. It should reach from the utility belt to the point where the pant legs meet. Or a segment of smooth armor covering the entire pelvic region. -Either an E-11, MG-34, or other Imperial issue rifle. -E-11 should be holstered in a standard stormtrooper holster. -Bicep armor should be either standard black stormtrooper style or biker scout style. -Either a neckseal (ribbed or smooth) or a black balaclava -Stormtrooper style thigh armor Approved Options Red reflective helmet lens (please provide backup reference pics) -2 red bandoliers crossing in the front and back. These should have hard ammo packs and look much like Chewbacca’s but with electronic portions near the buckles (see picture) -red buckle on belt (I took these from a storm commando in one of the comics that’s been posted for reference a couple of times. I’m not sure if this is what’s meant by “approved options” or if it should even be approved but I figured I’d post it A Storm Commando Should Have (recommended but not required) -Stormtrooper style handplates -A Biker Scout style sidearm -Boot armor resembling that worn by Jango Fett or Vader -All hard armor should be either glossy or matte black to represent “reflec coating”. A Storm Commando may have (accepted but not required) -A seam running along the inside of the forearm armor with a knob resembling a computer key near the inside of the elbow -Thigh armor resembling that worn by Jango Fett which would only cover the front half of the leg. It would be attached with ribbed straps running around the back Kev Det Lead |
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| txshifty | Aug 27 2007, 08:23 PM Post #7 |
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I'm fairly sure they're using some TK parts - and it really looks good 
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| tavrikgannon | Aug 27 2007, 09:24 PM Post #8 |
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Yeah, I noticed that as well. The lower leg armor is completely black TK legs. And their cod pieces are black TK as well.... |
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| COS_Vader | Aug 27 2007, 09:36 PM Post #9 |
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Here are the working specs from BikerScout.net: IMPERIAL SCOUT TROOPER BASE STANDARDS - White Biker Scout helmet (Don Post/Rubies Licensed replica acceptable) These modifications will need to be done. * Remove the logo on the back neck * Repaint bucket if it's not white (unless you go dirty) * Replace lens * Slim facemask if it's flared * Replace inaccurate "fish hook" * Replace bolts on visor/bucket * Replace aerator - Black textile long sleeve coveralls or flight suit. - Black textureless gauntlet style motorcycle gloves. No extra straps, buckles, or ornamental stitching. Ribbing over knuckles should be present. - White textile cummerbund with two standard Imperial pouches. - White textureless or near-textureless vinyl/leather calf-high laceless boots. Wrap over bridge of foot must be present. Soles of boot must be beige with tread. - White gloss/semi-gloss/weathered chest armor. Gray/Dark Gray rectangular mark on left chest must be present. - White gloss/semi-gloss/weathered back plate with tank. Tank must have pinstripe deco and anywhere from 4-6 "rank stripes" on right side of tank. Black tank topper and red square "button" must be present. No permanent flashing lights acceptable. - White gloss/semi-gloss/weathered shoulder bells, bicep armor, and elbow armor. Bicep armor must have black t-bits. - White gloss/semi-gloss/weathered belt. 2" webbing belt with buckle and 4 utility case combination attached to the front. Thermal detonator box using gray hosing is attached at the rear of the belt. No permanent flashing lights, or colored marking other than black bits are acceptable. - White gloss/semi-gloss/weathered knee armor. - White gloss/semi-gloss/weathered boot holster fastened to boots with either Velcro or rivets. Strap attachment is NOT acceptable. - Boot holster and Holdout blaster. - Dirty trooper modifications are allowed. (Weathering) - (These are optional. They are accepted, but not required) - DLT20a sniper rifle. - Concept Scout Rifle. |
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| tavrikgannon | Aug 27 2007, 09:50 PM Post #10 |
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Due to the fact that there are multiple references for the Storm Commando, I would amend that the boot holster as optional. I've seen SC's with and without. But it is clear that on one leg there is a boot knife attachment. And I like that you mention that the E-11 be on the holster. But the references also show that there is a holstered blaster pistol on the other hip. Yes, there is a dual rig holster. One is the E-11 carbine and the other is a pistol. I would also give concessions for other weapons, such as the Bazooka which was referenced in a Comic book and/or the DLT-20a rifle. (and I am not talking about the one they used in BFII*). But you made a concession for "concept scout rifle", and I like that. To me, that is what the videogame version of the DLT-20a is: a concept scout rifle. *A link to the DLT-20a can be found here: http://www.partsofsw.com/ Click on the "classic" link, then click on the "items" link. Scroll down until you see BlasTech DLT-20A Blaster Rifle / Pulse Cannon (IG-88 gun)". Click on that link. You will see what I mean. The version you see on the videogame is really a DLT-19 (which is a modified German MG-34), only instead of the MG-34 barrel on it, it has something similar to the MG-42, or perhaps the Browning .30 cal. At any rate, that is the only thing I could really think of as far as a contribution to the requirements for this costume. |
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| DZ 1641 | Aug 28 2007, 06:38 AM Post #11 |
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I'm considering "weathering" my storm commando once I get it finished. I really like the battle worn look. |
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