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Hi,

With all the apparent confusion, questions, different stories out there on
this Proposed Nanday Ban in Pennsylvania, I decided this am to just call
Fish & Game, and that I did.

I spoke w/a very pleasant lady, who gave me as much time as I needed to get
as much info. as I could.

First, if you want to call, here is the number to call (as I got transferred
around a bit):

PA Fish & Game:
717-787-4250 ~~ Then select Option #2

PA's Fish & Game Website:
www.pgc.state.pa.us

WHERE TO E-Mail Comments/Questions/Etc...
pgccomments@state.pa.us
(there is also a link to click on directly, on their
Website/page)

The person in charge is:
Jason Decoskey,
Chief of Special Divisions

...yes, there is a Rich Palmer (mentioned in a prior e-mail), he is the
Bureau Director, but I was told that Jason Decoskey, is above him, as Chief
of Special Divisions. In your e-mails to the above address, you can address
your concerns to Jason directly, as I will as the reason they are proposing
the Ban is NOT spelled out in their Agenda.

The 1st Mtg. to be held on The Proposed Ban for the Nandays is Jan. 29th ~~
IMPORTANT ~~ ALL FEEDBACK SHOULD BE SENT, WRITTEN, FAXED, BEFORE THE 29TH.

Steps/Stages:
There are 2 Stages this Proposal has to go through, the first is STEP #1:
Poposal to be brought up on the 29th, at the Commission Meeting (feedback
from others WILL be heard then)...IF it is approved by the Commissioners, it
then gets published in the PA Bulletin. STEP #2, it comes up for a Final
Adoption at the next meeting in April, and if approved is then again
published in the PA Bulletin, AND IS FINAL.
So, the TIME IS NOW, to e-mail, call, fax, mail (snail
mail) your concerns/objections.

The agenda is on the Web-page for the PA Fish and Game, it is VAGUE, it is
on Page 39, Section G under 137.1. I am not sure if it will come over
correctly when I cut and paste it, but here goes...and if not, just go to
their Site and it is there:

http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/lib/pgc/pdf...agenda_2008.pdf

It only lists the Quakers and Nandays in that Section and NO REASON for the
proposed ban, they are just there.

As I wrote, I am going to first e-mail Jason and ask the WHY of the Proposed
Ban, so we know WHAT to object to...how can we write/call if we don't know.
The lady was not able to answer that one, but said that Jason could....and
to ask him to write back with an answer.

As I said, the lady was VERY kind/helpful, making sure that she followed
along w*BUUZBEE to make sure I got the correct addresses, website, page, etc...
very nice.
Where she said that it does not state the WHY she did not feel it was d/t
what I heard the "noise" of the Nanday Conure, she said it would have to be
something to do with: land, crops, other wildlife.
I cannot imagine they can have an Agenda for their Mtg. and not list the
Proposal to read.

ALSO, DO NOTE there IS A GRANDFATHERING CLAUSE, Amen to that one, but as I
wrote that is NOT the ISSUE, or ENTIRE ISSUE, it is that IF they have
erroneous info.
(as others have eluded they believe they are a "colony building" bird like
the Quaker) then we ALL OWE IT TO THE BIRDS/and to fellow PA Residents to
ensure that this gets apposed and NOT APPROVED, and do our parts...WE CAN
HELP, EVEN IF WE DO NOT LIVE IN Pennsylvania, as they have to take into
consideration EVERYONE who voices opposition.

So, get your typing fingers ready, and help out the Nandays and fellow bird
owners/lovers out there in Pennsylvania.

You already know my motto on this one....as IF this should pass, WHO KNOWS
WHICH SPECIES AND STATE will be targeted next (and w/out knowing the who of
the "they"
who are really behind it).

I told the lady they should expect a FLOOD of calls/e-mails from fellow
concerned bird owners/lovers, and she had no problem with that.

MAKE SOME NOISE, NOW IS OUR CHANCE, and we have
2 CHANCES before it can pass, BUT the time is NOW, more importantly...before
1/29/08, so that it does not
get to the 2nd level! There is STRENGTH IN
NUMBERS...send this to your bird and non-bird friends, and those of you on
bird lists, send this out to those lists, and think of the thousands, upon
thousands of folks who we can reach that way, who can then be contacting
Pennsylvania's Fish & Game Department!
Bird Lovers, time to UNITE, and we ALL KNOW we are a Special Breed of our
own, so get working on it, today!!! Please, don't just sit back, read this,
and do nothing... As it is, I am in Southern California, and took the time
to call about something totally across the States, knowing full well it
could affect us, and that we can ALL UNITE TO HELP!

Maybe we can also get some of our super Avian Vets/Vets to write, as well ~~
in addition to Bird Clubs all over the US writing as a Group~~and
individuals.

This should be "ruffling all our feathers" ~~ excuse the pun!!!

On behalf of those adorable Red-Socked Birds (aka~~Nandays), I thank you!


Linda J.
So. Calif.