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| BUUZBEE | Sep 21 2007, 07:28 AM Post #1 |
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| BUUZBEE | Sep 21 2007, 07:29 AM Post #2 |
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Are conure's susceptible to fatty liver disease like other birds (i.e. budgies)? |
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| BUUZBEE | Sep 21 2007, 07:31 AM Post #3 |
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What are your suggestions as to getting two conure's to accept each other. My pair do nothing but fight! I have tried for month letting them play together, but it always ends up in a fight. My hopes were to get them housed together, but I don't see that happening. (they are both green cheeks, m/f older and young) |
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| hal9000 | Sep 21 2007, 11:45 AM Post #4 |
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Hi Carol, Are conures generally sensitive birds, like prone to feather plucking? Thanks! Haley |
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| Falcon | Sep 22 2007, 04:55 AM Post #5 |
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Hello carol..myself and my partner Tracy (sunnie) have two Sun Conures,they are approx 2 and a half years old.We are yet to determine the exact breeding time of them as we are in a drought(10yrs and still going), we live in South Australia. question 1. -can you successively colony breed this spieces? 2. -if so will the hens/cocks become aggressive towards their own? 3. -during brooding time is it possible for a hen to become so aggressive that she will attack constantly without fear of you, and look for the stightest possible moment that you take an eye off her that she will attack to "rip your flesh"? i ask this because we are having to arm ourselves to protect us upon entry of the avairy,now the half hand raised male is fluffing up and opening his beak in threats as we approach the roost/nest box with the evil hen right beside him looking to strike.Tracy's son Mitchell wont go in the avairy anymore dur to this and i must say that the 20 minutes in there today was very nerve racking.Any answers to these questions will be greatly appreciated. Ty Adam |
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| Deleted User | Oct 2 2007, 11:38 AM Post #6 |
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Hi Everyone, Thanks for the opportunity to talk with you about one of my favorite topics--pet birds, and especially conures. For those of you who don't know me, you can learn more at www.thiswildlife.com. In answering questions, I'll refer to material from "Conures" in the Animal Planet Pet Care Library, available at online booksellers or at your local shops in the U.S. Let's see if I can post this reply correctly, and then I begin on your questions. Best, Carol |
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| Deleted User | Oct 2 2007, 01:06 PM Post #7 |
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I relate to your wish to have your birds be friendly enough with each other to share cages. Who wants to clean two cages when one would do? And yet, there's never a guarantee that two birds of any description will ever get along well together. Your approach, allowing the birds to play together as a way of becoming acquainted seems very good. Since this is not working well you might try (a) enlarging the area they use for playtime together, giving each bird more space, (B) eliminating the food in the playspace, and © shortening the time they spend together before fighting erupts. If the fighting erupts immediately, I'd probably back up a step and perch the birds near each other for some out of cage playtime. Once they're comfortable with that, then you might try again to put them together for short periods of time. Is there is a pattern to the fighting? How does the fight proceed? If the fighting is serious (birds cannot be distracted by you), then I'd accept that the birds may never be friends and put your plans on hold. Like some people, some birds simply don't get along. Typically parrots are jealous of attention their people give them. If the birds are hand reared birds, they prefer the company of people to the company of other birds. These birds may never play well together, even though they are of the same species. Let's face it, there are some people each of us wouldn't want to spend time with either. LOL. Fighting among birds is a complicated topic. Can you show us a video of what happens? Anyone else have thoughts about this? Let's keep talking. |
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| BUUZBEE | Oct 2 2007, 01:16 PM Post #8 |
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All good sugestions, i will try them
It doesnt happen immediately thank goodness!
Normally Coco, older cock will be playing by himself, as does Sheila (younger hen) they will slowly get closer to each other, and then coco will charge! I have never let them finish a fight, i ALWAYS seperate them physically. I am too worried harm can be caused if they keep fighting. So I guess I really have never let them figure out the pecking order? |
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| Deleted User | Oct 2 2007, 01:22 PM Post #9 |
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Hi Haley, Is Petrie your parrot? Handsome. I think of all parrots as being "sensitive," but most conures are not as prone to nervous habits, including overgrooming or feather plucking, as some other bird species, such as African Grays, might be. As I say in my profile of fourteen pupular companion conures, " Indivudual birds may or may not be consistent with the general characteristics of their species." For example, "Blue-Crowned Conures are said to be more easygoing than most conures." This doesnt mean you particular Blue-Crowned will be. White-Eyed Conures are said to be shy, but not all are. That said, any bird can pass through a sensitive period as they are maturing, or due to changes in the household. For example, when I adopted a dog, the effect on one of my parrots was and still is pronounced. He became nervous and withdrawn. The other two parrots seem to enjoy confusing the dog by whistling to her and scolding her when she barks. To help the withdrawn parrot, I now keep a "buffer zone" between dog and parrots. This has helped stop the nervous overgrooming I saw. Does this help? Are you seeing anything from your parrot that leads you to believe that you're dealing with an overly sensitive bird? Thanks for asking. Carol |
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| Deleted User | Oct 2 2007, 02:09 PM Post #10 |
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Hi Adam, Please forgive me while I figure out how to use the system. I've been to Queensland, but not to your part of Australia. I look forward to going one day. I'll work on answers to your questions 1 and 2. While I do, let me answer # 3. "3. -during brooding time is it possible for a hen to become so aggressive that she will attack constantly without fear of you, and look for the stightest possible moment that you take an eye off her that she will attack to "rip your flesh"?" Parrots can be very aggressive, very persistent in their attacks and very territorial. Just as human parents defend their land, their homes, and their families, so the parrots defend their mates and their nest sites. The defense the parrots have is to scream and to fly at you until they drive you away. Most breeders I know do not attempt to handle or to enter the aviaries of their breeders without enclosing them in a smaller interior cage or box that has a door controlled from outside. Even birds that are not breeding can become that territorial about their enclosures. A couple of questions. To breed birds is a big committment. Are you committed to breeding sun conures? If you are, I can point you in the direction of some groups dedicated to breeding and who deal with these questions in their aviaries each day. I agree that an aviary with breeding birds is no place for a kid. Journeys into an aviary with aggressive parrots should be planned, the person entering needs to be protected, and the reason for entering needs to be substantial. Some birds need privacy for breeding and rearing young. Often when disturbances occur again and again (distrubances from the birds' perspective), the mates become agitated and break eggs or leave the nest altogether. I need to do a little research on colony breeding birds. Normally parrots are not colonial breeders, with a few obvious exceptions. The birds pair up, find a nest tree, and rear a brood separate from the rest of the flock. When the nestlings fledge, the birds rejoin the flock in stages. Are you breeding Australian parrots? Thanks for asking. I'll get back to you on the other questions. Thanks for your patience. Best, Carol |
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