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| How to Make a Play Stand; a descriptive how-to guide | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 14 2008, 01:12 PM (425 Views) | |
| Bird_Lover | Oct 14 2008, 01:12 PM Post #1 |
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I've been creating various informative guides for parrots in my spare time. Here is my play stand sheet. Please let me know what you think!  Note: Sorry the pictures are so blurry!
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| JAM | Dec 17 2008, 03:20 PM Post #2 |
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you are definitally creative ! The photos were great and so were the stands  Ill definitally want to try the Hula Hoop one |
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| pachuco | Feb 23 2009, 08:41 AM Post #3 |
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Your how to guide for play gyms is great, but when using pvc and hula hoops because of the horrible grade and toxic plastic that they both are I would be concerned if the bird managed to chew a tiny piece off and perhaps swallow it. |
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| BUUZBEE | Feb 23 2009, 10:26 AM Post #4 |
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I've heard before that PVC can be toxic, but no one can seem to come up with any studies proving it. If you have documentation thats easy to read (with out all the chemical mumbo jumbo! LOL) that would be GREAT! |
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| pachuco | Feb 23 2009, 11:06 AM Post #5 |
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http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=bpa-study-plastic-chemica The above is a news article (reader friendly!! :P) that entails many of the issues that plastics contain. The main chemical in hard plastics such as PVC, is something called BPA. BPA is the hardening agent in the plastic. My general rule of thumb is "what is toxic for me is 200% more toxic for my birds," so I don't use it. Some scientists are starting to think that plastic toxicity may cause neurological illness in children which is why everyone FREAKED out about plastic baby bottles being on the market. Considering it takes A LOT for the FDA to ban anything (stupid FLOCKs ;p) plastic toxicity should be of concern to us, not only for our birds sake but for ours. Kelly PS edited because I can't spell!! 
Edited by pachuco, Feb 23 2009, 11:07 AM.
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| BUUZBEE | Feb 23 2009, 11:16 AM Post #6 |
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Good link, its a pretty new article too. now is it toxic when heated or just being around it toxic? Its not like the babies are eating the bottle... so would covering the PVC with some type of rope be ok, if the birds cant get to it to eat it? (as done on the playstand above) just about every rope perch you buy for them has plastic at the end to mount to the cage with 
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| pachuco | Feb 23 2009, 11:22 AM Post #7 |
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Well I know that they're worried because a lot of baby/children's toys are made out of this crap and they mouth their toys of course. I know my birds lick things like the special guys they are, and the chemical can come off even if not ingested. I do wonder though, if they might have a slight tolerance to it like we do, but if over the long run the chemical builds up in their systems it may not be so easily tolerated. When it comes to people though, we ingest so much stuff that causes cancers, neurological disorders, and diseases that I wouldn't even know where to start. I do know that the hardened agent in teflon sometimes contains BPA's which is why when you heat it teflon pans they are UBER toxic to us and birds. I would be concerned if the bird was a good chewer/destroyer, but I highly doubt because it is such a hard substance that anything smaller than a macaw or a cockatoo would be able to destroy the plastic and eat it. Kelly Edited by pachuco, Feb 23 2009, 11:24 AM.
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| BUUZBEE | Feb 23 2009, 11:25 AM Post #8 |
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very true... I suppose the best we can do is to cover the exposed PVC |
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