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Reikken	Jun 14 2007, 03:11 AM
Posts: 1,838 Group: FEFFer Member #907 Joined: August 26, 2006	Yzarc Drowsnam Jun 14 2007, 01:07 AM For this debate post, I am going to do something rather uncommon. I am going to be my opponent. Yzarc Drowsnam Jun 14 2007, 01:07 AM Not if you're using h4x units and you are a h4x player and actually use bonus exp. Also, you seem to mention that the chapter where you don't want combat exp doesn't count for Nephenee and Kieran, because they won't get combat exp on that chapter. Well, I mean, they do get bonus exp. By this chapter, the only units that won't be very highly leveled are un-h4x or underleveled units like Tormod, or non-offense based units like Makalov. Level 20 is a safe assumption for the units you use most and have had for a while. Kieran should be slightly behind Oscar at this point, but Oscar will, and pretty easily, be level 20. No, dude. That was with bexp included. Only if you're using like 6 units are you going to have everyone promoted by now. Yzarc Drowsnam Jun 14 2007, 01:07 AM Actually...Oh wait, I'm Reikken, I forgot. Okay, what would Reikken say? 87484 4848 999584635 483726263 Damn, I feel SOOO gay. Okay, I can't do this anymore. Sorry, the whole swap-persona thing isn't gonna work out. Maybe some other time when I feel like taking a penis in the butt. Right now isn't that time. Eh..? Well...the important thing is you tried... Yzarc Drowsnam Jun 14 2007, 01:07 AM Might I also add an "lol" at Devdan starting with a Heavy Spear and losing 4 speed? lol, trade Yzarc Drowsnam Jun 14 2007, 01:07 AM Reikken Quote: Onto Largo. Perhaps one of the best offensive fighters in the game? Or, in fact, THE best? That's a difficult decision. The point here is this: Largo has a purpose on the battlefield. He rapes. Not only is he GOOD offensively but he is actually the BEST offensively in most situations. On to Largo indeed. Haha, you WOULD want to get onto Largo. But, probably in a gay way, unlike me. Faggot. Notice I said "on to". That's completely different than what you said, "onto", which means on top of. Quote: You're pretty fucking liberal with that Knight Ward. At level 16, his speed is 17.2. You would need to have it on Devdan way too long for that to take use. The Knight Ward is too good an item to waste on Devdan just to make him suck less balls than he naturally does. I'd rather use it on Kieran to make sure he doubles as many things as possible, or Oscar, or Brom. Really, Devdan will consistently be my last choice for the Knight Ward, and he will for others as well. All your paladins need is to wear it when you give them bexp, and that'll be enough to have them cap spd. Devdan using it doesn't interfere with that at all. Anyway, basically, it looks like you're trying to say that while Largo does join pretty crappy, if you give him loads of bexp to catch up in level, and baby him while his durability still sucks before his supports kick in, he becomes good for the last few chapters. Well, let's examine that. 20/20 stats, Largo, plus full supports 29.4 atk, 25.8 AS, 75.9 hit, 27.0 crit ,,, 60.0 hp, 15.3 def, 7.6 res, 92.5 avo, 15.9 crit avo 20/20 stats, Devdan, plus full supports 27.3 atk, 23.4 AS, 90.2 hit, 10.7 crit ,,, 48.0 hp, 18.6 def, 14.0 res, 74.2 avo, 22.4 crit avo oh, and... Largo, 4.6 mag atk Devdan, 15.8 mag atk lol, Devdan is a beast with the Flame Lance. He has the highest atk in the game with it. Srsly. Anyway, on fixed, Largo caps str, and Devdan reaches 24 spd. And Devdan can equip the Knight Ward for +2 def/res if needed. Offensively, Largo is winning by 3 atk and 2 AS. Defensively, it's not so clear-cut. Largo has 12 hp and 18 avo vs Devdan't 3 def, 6-7 res, and 8-9 crit avo. Or 5 def and 8-9 res. Largo's lead is in avoid, which is based on luck. Enemies have pretty good hit, so his 92 avoid, while pretty good, isn't reliable. A few unlucky hits, and he's down, especially if he gets hit with a crit, like from a swordmaster, which he actually loses in avoid against. Devdan's AS is enough to be doubling everything except swordmasters, which Largo doesn't double either, so I'm not concerned about that. So 3 atk. Is Largo's 3 atk worth that bexp and babying? Well, considering that Devdan already has about as much atk as Kieran, so he's killing pretty much everything anyway, and then for the rare enemy that Devdan's atk is not high enough for, there's these nifty things called forged weapons, the answer is no, not at all, especially when Devdan is better staying alive.
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