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Reikken	Jul 21 2007, 02:24 AM
Posts: 1,838 Group: FEFFer Member #907 Joined: August 26, 2006	Okay, what do we have? We've got... thief skillz + combat + healing --> thief skillz + combat + healing + combat ...on one side, and... combat + combat --> combat + combat + healing ...on the other. The first is easily much more useful than the latter. I mean, there's not even a debaet. The arrow is promotion, btw. To make this easier to see, I'll cancel out the things that our teams have in common... thief skillz + ~~combat~~ + healing --> thief skillz + ~~combat~~ + ~~healing~~ + ~~combat~~ vs ~~combat~~ + combat --> ~~combat~~ + ~~combat~~ + ~~healing~~ ...so we get: thief skillz + healing --> thief skillz vs combat --> O snap. So how is your team better? The only way would be is if your team was winning combat by a monstrous amount, and that's not the case at all, as I'll demonstrate. Colm, lv 2, C Neimi, Iron Sw0rd: 10 atk, 10 AS, 18 hp, 3 def, 1 res, 30 avo Vanessa, lv 1, (She's unlikely to get even one level in the first chapter since it has very few enemies, and they're all axes anyway. Not that 1 level makes any difference either way, and Colm would quickly make it up even if it did exist.) Slim Lance: 9 atk, 11 AS, 17 hp, 6 def, 5 res, 26 avo Iron: 12 atk, 8 AS, 20 avo She doesn't have enough AS to double the early axe users with Iron, and she gets WTD while Colm gets WTA, so she loses by 3 atk against them. Similarly, she wins by 3 atk vs Soldiers. Then against the rest of the enemies either one wins by a smaller amount. Then Colm's growth rate is higher, mostly thanks to a class exp bonus, so it's only getting better for him. There's not even an advantage here for Vanessa at all, let alone a monstrous one. laterz on, Colm, lv 20/11 Rogue, B Neimi, A Moulder, Steel Sword: 29.1 atk, 23.3 AS, 24.9 crit,, 41.0 hp, 16.0 def, 12.6 res, 79.2 avo Iron Sword: 26.1 atk, 26.3 AS, ....85.2 avo Vanessa, lv 20/5 ...Wyvern Knight?, B Moulder, A Lute, Steel Lance: 30.0 atk, 20.3 AS, 10.0 crit,, 31.5 hp, 16.6 def, 17.9 res, 82.3 avo Iron Lance: 27.0 atk, 24.3 AS, ...90.3 avo Here, I would venture to say that Vanessa is actually losing, if anything. On offense, 3 AS and 15 crit > 1 atk On defense, 10 hp > 5 res and ~4 avo Certaily far far from a monstrous win. And there's also a period that Colm is promoted and Vanessa is not, so that's bad for Vanessa. For Lute and Moulder, since I don't want to do another stat comparison (>_>), and comparing their stats before promtion seems rather pointless, and and there's more variables, like Slayer, I'll just say that Moulder gets an exp bonus ftw, can use higher level staves (staff level goes up much slower than that of offensive weapons), has Slayer, a crit lead, and has massive con for using heavy weapons VS Lute's mag, so he's likely winning if anything. So yeah, your team clearly doesn't have a massive win in combat, and may even be losing, so it's getting beaten badly.
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