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How do you define "progress"? Some things which you call progression, I call regression. Morality wouldn't heavily effect technological advancements, or anything like that. And similarly, what do you define as "flaws" in terms of a moral society...?
Morality effects technological regression. To provide a sample, let us say that society was based on the morals of 1500s Rome. The Church is always right is one of the morals. Galileo Galilei's theory of a heliocentric universe would be rejected and we would still think everything revolved around us, hindering our knowledge of space.

Pope Boniface VIII banned cadaver dissection in the 13th century. If this held true, modern medicine wouldn't be anywhere close to where it is today because we wouldn't know how the body works.

Morals often get in the way of progress, moreso than the converse. If society was defined by morals then we wouldn't have the same medical or astronomical knowledge we have today.

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Father figure refers to an authority figure in the family. Does it actually have to be the father? No. But a family with 2 parents, one being the provider, the other caring for the family/home, regardless of which one does it, is the best way to raise kids. I don't want to throw this into a gay marriage debate, but in certain ways, even gay couples can try and simulate a nuclear family.
I still think a loving influence is the best way to have a family and we can argue this all day and all night. The establishment of a set provider and set nurturer has embedded one of the overlooked stereotypes -- the one surrounding fathers -- into society. While, granted, this will fade over time if society continues to change, we're creating divisionns as well. I've met great kids who come from families ridden by divorce and I can't say that the traditional family is the most effective way to raise children.

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But back on the issue of premarital sex, all it has is ONE parent, struggling to provide for a kid she just downloaded. She has to work to make money. She can't work and take care of the kids at the same time. The kids only have one parent to look up to. This sort of thing is plaguing African American communities right now, with the destruction of the family. You can't tell me that a single working mother can raise a child better than nuclear family, which works FAR better than this situation.
Wrong.

It's not about the number of parents, it's about how the family functions. Single mothers and fathers can raise a child to be just as healthy and regular as any child from a nuclear family; look at any child who has lost a parent at a young age and continued to grow up to be a standard citizen (Dexter Scott King, son of Martin Luther King Jr., lost his father at the age of about 7-8).

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And as for you bringing up Oprah... Sure, its possible for good, productive people to come out of a broken family. Is it as common? Hell no. I can't believe you would even try and imply that.
I bring it up because it proves my point: what a family consists of is irrelevant, everything is dependent on how a family functions. All one needs is a nuturing environment to grow and learn in for a family to be "functional."
Neon,June 8 2005
07:34 PM
@Reaver: Me grammer is better than ur post count newbie.

HJ, December 30 2008
06:20 PM
You gave Inui his first (and last?) sexual experience, didn't you? That's historic.

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