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Janus	Jan 13 2008, 05:41 PM
"Guest Worker" Wiseass (resendency pending) Posts: 240 Group: FEFFer Member #786 Joined: May 6, 2006	I'm not quite sure what exactly this discussion is supposed to be about per se, but there are one or two things I’ve got some issues with: Quote: Things dating as far back as the (1)enslavement of the Hebrews by the Egyptians and Jesus being (2)murdered by the people with power in religion were caused by religion and culture. (1)Wait, this is supposed to be an essay on the reasons why religion is bad is it not? Well than why are your first two examples of religious persecution taken from the bible, a source of questionable historical accuracy and undoubtedly religious nature? This greatly weakens your argument. (2)Jesus wasn't really murdered, you could argue it, but really he was crucified, which is probably worse, but definitely a different verb. Quote: The ones clearly in the wrong, (1)the Egyptians and the (2)religious leaders in these cases, used religion and culture to justify their actions. (1)Uhhh… No. The Egyptians enslaved captures peoples because they needed a shitload of manual labor to those little piles of stone called the Pyramids, plus all there other great temples and placates and whatnot. There justification was more along the lines of the "look at out big sharp metal objects of destruction and dismemberment. You'd be best working for us if you know what's good for you" not anything even so thinly veiled as religious superiority. Anyways, it's a bit of a myth the Egyptians were big enslavers—much of the work on there epic works projects was done by civil labor. (2) You oversimplify. Jesus was killed because the Jewish leaders thought that his preaching would lead to rebellion, which they thought would bring the downfall of Judea (which it eventually did, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_diaspora]Second Disapora[/url]), so they passed him off to Pontus Pilate, who thought he was innocent and passed him off to Herod Antipas, who wanted nothing to do with him, so passed him back to Pilate. Pilate still wanted nothing to do with him but his hand had been forced, so he asks the crowd that's gathered to see the spectacle, in order to wash his hands of the whole incident, "free Barabbas or Jesus?" The crowd is worked up, mob mentality kicks in, they shout for Barabbas to be freed and Jesus to be crucified--the rest is history. That's still oversimplifying it, but, suffice to say, with Jesus, everybody is in the wrong, not just the religious leaders. Anyway, in this situation, the fact that the religious leaders were in power (technically—the Romans ran the show but the Jewish aristocracy weren't totally kicked of the stage) was a more influential to there decisions than the fact they were religious.
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