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Jan 20 2008, 07:07 PM
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Inui
Jan 20 2008, 12:09 AM
Arguements like "Ike has to kill Ashera" and "Geoffrey has to seize in a chapter" are moot since those are story events, of course.

This "rule" is stupid because someone will lose this point if they bring it up, why stop people from bringing up poor points in debates?

Actually, most people probably wouldn't be able to contest it. The majority of FE debaters are good with stats, not concepts. That's even true for most of the so-called elite.

Shouldn't that separate regular debaters from good debaters? As your judging guide reads:

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1.) Don’t let your own opinions mix with what you read. Judge what each person has to say on each point, not what you think of what they say. Someone could say “Marcia wins Res by a huge amount, and that matters more than Brom’s Def lead since physical enemies don’t really impact either of them that much” and it could seem totally ridiculous to you, but if the opponent in that debate can’t counter or counters it unsatisfactorily, or counters it without any evidence, the first poster easily wins.


If someone makes a case that, using FE7 for my own comfort in arguing this, Hector is the best unit in Hector Hard Mode because he is the only unit who can seize, thus win the game for the player, it stands in the debate unless the opponent counters it with better logic.

It seems foolish to eliminate arguments from debate because I fail to see any "trump" argument in FE debating.

ayuh; I said nothing about the validity of the rule. I just said that really weak debaters could still win against really strong debaters using that argument, so you're not necessarily right in saying that it's a "poor argument."

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I can think up a lot of reasons why seizing or killing one boss are not valid arguments, but "it's a story event" certainly isn't one of them.


Actually, that is pretty much the only reason. Story events don't add to the efficiency of your team; they occur the exact same way no matter way the player does in the actual game. If something a character does doesn't make your team more efficient, it has no validity in debates.
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