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Mekkah	Feb 5 2008, 09:52 AM
Posts: 667 Group: FEFFer Member #1,400 Joined: July 24, 2007	kuiperichimninaiji I think that the tier list in the OP should be further divided. There are several units in the high tier that are too weak for that tier but too strong for mid tier, and the top of the mid tier is arguably on par with that. I'd suggest splitting the mid tier and moving the bottom of the high tier (which is pretty crowded anyway) to the top of the upper-mid tier. As it is now, the units are kind of placed into order of usefulness, and then they put lines between them and called it tiers. Quite possibly, this process was done in reverse order, but if properly done it gives the same results. Personally, I prefer just going by Top/High/Mid/Trash. Quote: Gilliam is definitely High tier material. I beg to differ. I think he is useful to a very extent, but his mobility problem prepromotion should not be overlooked. He's the least flexible out of everyone before promotion, to the point where he may not meet the fray in time to get EXP. Due to this, Franz gains a level lead on him and will beat him to the first Knight Crest, which gives him a pretty delayed promotion. Another problem is that his durability early on is nearly overkill, as FE8 earlygame is so damn easy. In fact, using semi-frail units like Franz and Eirika allows Moulder to get healing EXP...pretty often you are taking little to no damage every round either way. Then later on, both his offense and defense become arguably the worst on a realistic team consisting of "good" units. His attacking Spd is horrible, he can't double for shit, and enemies aren't OHKOable like that. He also sucks at dodging, and while he's fine with melee, that just blows against magic. His outstanding Def is no longer a unique niche, as by now everyone's avoid picked up and pretty much every enemy on the map either hasn't seen your army yet or is dead. Quote: Gilliam also benefits from the swiftsoles the same way that Lute benefits from the Body Ring: it's a massive help, but you can get by without it. And Gilliam arguably should be getting those swiftsoles; they'd be a waste on someone like Tethys. Swiftsoles are not exclusive to Gilliam just because he has lower movement than everyone else. I personally would give them to a unit with move again, as they use their full movement more often than those without. Gilliam sometimes has that (Great Knight)...but still, I'd rather put them on, yes, Tethys. That's not a waste. That gives her huge flexibility for those she can dance for and allows other units to move much further. She basically gets more choices on whether to boost your team's mobility as well as offense (let a unit attack again), defense (let a unit heal again) or anything really. Quote: Tana should have a split rank. She essentially joins one chapter earlier in Eirika's route (or at least half a chapter earlier for all intents and purposes), and flying units are a tremendous help in chapter 9 of Eirika's route for flying folks like Gilliam, Seth or Franz over the water. Also, Cormag joins later in Eirika's route, meaning that Tana plays a more vital role as secondary flier, and when he does come, it's unlikely that he'll replace her. Eirika route Tana probably belongs somewhere around the top of the high tier. I agree she should be split, but I don't like Tana much as a unit anyway. Quote: Vanessa is ranked too high; Colm beats her for utility for the second half of the game. Both of them have a crappy prepromote that they outclass, but Vanessa also has to compete with two other fliers who can duplicate her function, whereas Colm has no replacement. Actually, Ephraim route Ephraim probably deserves higher, since in the later half of the game Vanessa's strength suffers enough to limit her to mostly just utility, while Ephraim is an awesome brawler from start to finish. Vanessa belongs at the bottom of the top tier with Lute. Then that makes Colm higher than her, and that's it. Says nothing about her position against anywhere else. Same for the "crappy prepromote" - what does that matter, other than proving that Vanessa and Colm are Gods while Rennac and Syrene are Trash? You are severely underestimating how quickly Vanessa picks up on avoid and attacking power. She has so much raw speed, and gains +25 avoid from supports on top of it fairly quickly. She can exchange Spd for power by equipping heavier lances if needed, and gains +5 Atk from supports with awesome units too. She is great in combat. And THEN she also has awesome flier utility in several spots which is unmissable. Plus, she has a great joining time, which you liked to praise Gilliam for.


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