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Eclipse	Feb 13 2008, 06:28 PM
Pendant Fanboy #344 Posts: 169 Group: FEFFer Member #854 Joined: July 26, 2006	Ike, leader of a band of of mercenaries, vs. Haar, a lazy delivery guy. Advantage: Ike Ike has two eyes, Haar has one. Advantage: Ike Ike is in Brawl, Haar is not. Advantage: Ike Ike and Haar both start at level 11 in their respective parts and have two chapters without the other. It's reasonable to assume that by the time they meet up in 3-2 that they'll both be at level 14. Let's compare their stats: Ike @ lv. 14 HP: 46.0/50±1.1 Str: 25.7/27±1.1 Mag: 2.3/10±0.8 Skl: 29.6/30±0.8 Spd: 24.1/30±1.1 Lck: 14.9/30±1.1 Def: 22.2/26±1.1 Res: 7.5/15±0.8 Haar @ lv. 14 HP: 46.9/50±1.1 Str: 25.1/29±1.1 Mag: 2.2/5±0.8 Skl: 25.8/26±0.8 Spd: 20.9/24±1.1 Lck: 14.4/30±1.1 Def: 25.0/26±1.1 Res: 7.6/13±1.1 Haar has slightly more HP, Def, and Res, but Ike will have more Str, Skl, Spd, and Luk. Clearly Ike has the advantage here. He hits for more damage, doubles more enemies than Haar, avoids more hits, and gets critted less. Lets take a look at weapon choice. Here's what they start with: Haar: Steel Axe, Hand Axe Ike: Ettard, Iron Sword Steel Axe\|Mt: 11\|Hit: 75\|Crt: 0\|Uses: 50\| Ettard\|Mt: 15\|Hit: 75\|Crt: 10\|Uses: 50\| Steel Poleaxe\|Mt: 15\|Hit: 60\|crt: 0\|Uses: 35\| Well, the Ettard pretty much blows the Steel Axe out of the water. It has more Mt (which complements Ike's already higher Str) and has more Crit. Hell, even the steel loseaxe is strictly worse than Ike's Ettard, and that's Haar's best weapon choice. Haar starts with a Hand Axe versus Ike's Iron Sword, but you can easily buy Ike a Wind Edge to give him that extra range. Let's also not forget that Ike gets Ragnell, the best sword in the game. As you probably already know, Ragnell has infinite uses and a 1-2 range, so you will never need to buy him a weapon ever again once he gets it. This makes Ike infinitely more cost effective than Haar. It's also worth noting that Ragnell is strictly better than a Silver Poleaxe, the strongest weapon Haar can wield until you get your hands on Urvan. Ragnell\|Mt: 18\|Hit: 80\|Crt: 5\|Uses: --\|cost: free\|Range: 1-2\| Silver Poleaxe\|Mt: 18\|Hit: 60\|Crt: 0\|Uses: 30\|cost: 1800\|Range: 1\| Even when you get Urvan, it isn't ranged so Ike still has the advantage. Ike is Earth affinity, Haar is Wind. An A Support with Ike will give 23 Avoid plus whatever the other person's affinity gives. An A Support with Haar gives 8 Hit and 8 Avoid. Earth Affinity is pretty much the best affinity in the game, making Ike the most attractive support partner. Advantage Ike. Ike has three command stars and gives 15 hit 15 avoid to your whole team. Haar doesn't. This is like giving your entire team a B rank support with an earth affinity w/ infinte support range and doesn't take up your support slot. Combine this with Ike's affinity and he makes your whole team pretty dodgy. Ike has four bond supports: Mist (10%), Titania (5%), Soren (5%), Ranulf (5%) Haar has one: Jill(5%) There is also another thing that should be mentioned about these bond supports. Ike and all of his bond supports are around at the same time. Haar and Jill are together for like, 2 chapters in part 4 if you send them the same way. Ike has his bond supports around for most of part 3, and some of them are likely to be taken into the final as well. Advantage: Ike Ike has 2 chapters with his affinity in part 3, Haar only has 1. Advantage Ike. Conclusion: Ike starts with better stats when Haar joins. Ike starts with a better weapon than all of Haar's avalible options. When Haar gets more options for better weapons, Ike gets Ragnell. Ike is Earth Affinity >>>>>> Haar's Wind, and is one of the best support partners in the game. Ike gives +15 hit and +15 avo to your whole team, Haar doesnt. Ike has more/ better bond supports than Haar. Ike >>>>> Haar.
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