Viewing Single Post From: Zihark

Viewing Single Post From: Zihark
smash fanatic	Mar 2 2008, 02:05 AM
Posts: 114 Group: FEFFer Member #1,404 Joined: July 27, 2007	Quote: Yes. A character that is capable of defeating more difficult enemies is better than one that can only defeat weaker ones. Which doesn't matter at all becuase Mia's not fighting Zihark's enemies, and Zihark's not fighting Mia's enemies. Quote: No. But Zihark isn't the best fighter in the DB, and Mia isn't the worst fighter in the GMs. This is irrelevant. Quit dodging the point. Zihark is the third or so best DB unit. Mia's the 10th or so best GM. Zihark's helping me beat the game more than Mia is. Quote: Yes, but they do eventually coexist on the same team, and compete with each other for a potential spot in the final mission. A direct comparison between them is valid at that point, and for Part 4, Mia is better. Yes, IN PART 4 WHICH DOES NOT AFFECT HOW THEY ARE PERFORMING IN THE FIRST THREE PARTS. Quote: Except it's not "slightly fewer chapters." There is a rather large availability gap between them. Mia's available for the majority of Part 3, which is the longest Part of the game. Zihark is available for less than half of Part 1, and 2 chapters in Part 3. ... no, Zihark's available in 8 chapters (1-6 is long enough to count as 2), and Mia's available in 10. Also consider the fact that two of the three DB chapters in part 3 are laguz, which give a lot of EXP, and the fact that Mia's competing with a lot more GMs who are good, compared to about half the DBs being trash. Quote: It's actually kind of similar to Marcus. Yeah, he's hax early on, but you don't want to use him too much because eventually other units will exceed him in the latter half of the game. No, a more accurate unit would be Seth or Titania. Start off h4x, end up good. And who's surpassing him besides Nolan? I'll help you here, to show you how wrong you are. Here are Zihark and Edward's stats entering 3-13. 13 Zihark, A Nolan, Silver Blade 36.5 atk, 30.0 AS, 134.0 hit, 24.5 crit - - 120.0 avo, 35.5 hp, 15.5 def, 14.5 res, 15.0 critavo Killing Edge 28.5 atk, 30.0 AS, 159.0 hit, 54.5 crit Brave Sword 29.5 atk, 30.0 AS, 164.0 hit, 24.5 crit 8 Edward, A Nolan, Caladbolg 36.8 atk, 25.2 AS, 171.6 hit, 27.5 crit - - 100.9 avo, 38.0 hp, 16.1 def, 8.6 res, 19.5 critavo Killing Edge 29.8 atk, 25.2 AS, 163.6 hit, 52.5 crit - - 92.9 avo, 38.0 hp, 16.1 def, 8.6 res, 19.5 critavo Brave Sword 30.8 atk, 25.2 AS, 168.6 hit, 22.5 crit - - 92.9 avo, 38.0 hp, 16.1 def, 8.6 res, 19.5 critavo The laguz have about 150 hit, so Zihark faces about 30 (18 real) and Edward faces about 50, more if he's not using Caladbolg. ...also, this map is an earth affinity, so Zihark gets +5 avo/hit. Make that 25 hit (12.5 real). Edward gets hit more than four times as often, and only wins att by 1. He even has trouble doubling the cats, who have 22 AS. Also, Nolan does worse on Edward's team because Zihark's 22 avo >> Edward's 2 def. wtfmassiveraep. Edward can't even think of passing Zihark until part 4, and I hope you have the common sense to realize that's not justifying Edward being used over Zihark. Quote: No. Zihark is overleveled for Part 1. He gets perhaps 10-15exp a kill, to Micaiah/Aran/Ed/Nolan/Jill/Ilyana's 30-50 or so. Any of these units gains up to -5- levels to Zihark's 1. Making more of the team a lot more useful faster >>> making only one unit marginally better slowly. Zihark gets kills, and levels up two or three times. Edward gets kills, and levels up five or six times. Zihark is still better. And... unpromoted units aren't getting 50 exp a kill. lol. The enemy would have to be about level 10 2nd tier for that. Hell, you even got mixed up in the Seth EXP argument for the FE8 tier list, and it looked like you conceded, so what's the matter now?


Zihark · Fire Emblem 9-11