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THR	Jul 29 2008, 12:21 AM
Posts: 73 Group: FEFFer Member #2,023 Joined: July 28, 2008	kay, kay Dieck vs. Clarine first off Clarine is a flatchest Second off Dieck runs around without his shirt. He's made completely from his manly spirit. Second off, as shown, he also was a gladiator. Who saw the movie gladiator? huh? HUH? that dude was badass, therefore, Dieck is badass. Dieck also happens to be covered in scars? Tibarn. That's right. and Tibarn was badass, mirite? Clarine is a troubadour whose incestual legacy continues with priscilla and raven. both are troubadours, and both are flat chested. ew. that's all clarine has going for her personality wise, except for being a spoiled rich kid who is all liek HEY! LISTEN! you know who else is like that? Navi, that's right, Clarine is as annoying as navi. ANYWAYS...! Dieck joins ch 2 now lets mosey over and discuss enemy spd on the right side, where dieck will be pwning 2 fighters have 7 spd, 1 has 8 spd, but is weighed down to 4 AS by a steel axe, the 5 soldiers on the right side have like 4 spd each. theres one mercenary who is lolIhaveh4xspd, and then theirs 2 fighters with 6 spd. Dieck starts with 10 spd. He's doubling all but 2 enemies, Dieck also happens to join on the right side next to a fort. his only competition for exp over there is lot. it'll take a few turns for alan/lance/roy to get over to that side. Dieck is having fun sitting on a fort raping enemies left and right, alan/lance meanwhile have to plunge through a bunch of enemies to get to that side of the map. Dieck is most definitely getting that exp. now comes the issue of the boss. The Boss is a knight, and knight's hate armorslayers, unfortunately for the boss, you get an armor slayer, now who gets the armor slayer? Dieck can ORKO the boss with it. now one may ask, WHAT ABOUT ALAN/LANCE I shall tell you. the boss has 3 spd, Alan has 6, lance has 8, they both have 9 con, and the armor slayer weighs 11. Neither can double. Neither will ORKO. Now then, one could think of giving marcus the kill to shorten the chapter, but that is irrelevant also, because both Marcus and Dieck both ORKO the boss. what about roy and his shiny rapier? UNPOSSIBLE Roy does 5 dmg to him with the effective bonus from his rapier, in fact, due to how the formula works for calculating your atk, the rapier will give roy 12 atk, the boss has 12 def. lawl. Roy will only be doing the same amount of damage as his str gives him. Now I fear i'm putting out too many numbers, so i'll try to cut it a biiiit shorter. Fast forward 2 moar chapters, where clarine has moar lol i exist rather than lol I don't exist. Dieck will be proving himself helpful fighting armor bosses and generic enemies more than any other unit on your team, Lugh won't be wtfh4xing the shit out of some of the armors due to a lack of doubling. due to diecks superior spd than everyone but like... lance assuming he got lolmassivebabying, and superior atk other than ppl like lugh who are right now like lolicantdouble, Dieck will have one of the greatest offenses on your team. Dieck also can use the heaviest weaponry without AS loss. dare I say awesome? Clarine on the other hand, will not have a lvl lead, and will in fact be behind ellen by 2 lvls. Dieck's overlevel'd and even if he wasn't, he could catch up. level leads don't dissapear between healers. Between fighters they do. Now, since they do completely different jobs, comparing offensive stats would be lolwasteoftime, comparing defensive stats isn't. Clarine has 15 hp 9 spd 2 def 5 res 8 lck 18+8=26 avo lol not impressive. Cavvies, which are the main enemy in this chapter, have quite alot of hit Iron sword cavvies have 99 hit. Clarine is getting lol raped by 78 hit. They also happen to have about 15 atk, Clarine takes 13 a hit when she has 15 hp. lol rape. Iron Lance Cavvies have 63 hit on her with 14 dmg. Nomads have 77 hit on her with 13 dmg lolololololololololololololololololol "but she's being protected" lolwut, this is an open map, protecting a unit is fairly difficult on this type of map. Dieck has 26 hp 10 spd 6 def 1 res 5 lck 20+5=25 avo Dieck deals with the same hit chances as clarine, except he takes 9 a hit for iron, 9 a hit for nomad, and 11 a hit for iron lance. 9+11=20 dmg, that's the most damage he'll take, if a nomad backs up an iron lance cavvy. Dieck is still alive. Clarine, if she gets hit, she'll get pwnt badly, and remain at like 2 hp, healers also can't heal themselves, but healers can heal other ppl. Clarine has no effective way to heal herself and still live the next turn. Assuming you use one or the other healer, Clarine will not have a level lead on them until after promotion, when she can start being lol offense. Dieck on the other hand has offense and can keep that level lead and even improve it. He will most likely promote first at about... ch 10. Dieck gets the first hero crest f'sho. Clarine on the other hand is a healer, and we all know that healers without level leads to their other healing counterparts makes ppl cry. Lugh is promoting with the first guiding ring. Clarine with the second. The second comes at ch 14, unfortunately, it comes so very late in the chapter, so she'll be promoted by ch 15. Dieck has been promoted for 5 fucking chapters while Clarine has been waiting for the guiding ring. wtf. im going to try to stay away from numbars right now, due to how annoying it is typing out each situation...! Anyway....! Moving on...! Dieck Lot: Dieck makes Lot good, that alone should make him better than clarine, Clarine improves ppl, she doesn't make them good. Klein: lol klein isnt being fielded Rutger: similiar move. Most def going to happen Clarine: myes Thany: lolshe'snotgoingtobefielded Clarine Rutger: myes Dieck: myes Lance: lance is not gonna be getting either of them due to roy x alan x lance support triangle Dorothy: loldorothy isn't gonna be fielded AHHH CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR KEWLZ? Y/N? Klein: not going to be fielded Clarine has 2 potential units to support, both whom are good. Dieck has 3 potential units, 2 whom are h4x, and 1 whom simply becomes good because of dieck. Rank wise Tactics: Dieck kills enemies faster for half the game, allowing you to advance faster Winnar: Dieck Funds: lol Dieck costs wayyy less moneys to use Winnar: Dieck Combat: lol dieck being able to fight for more than 8 chapters makes dieck the winrar survival: Dieck wins this until clarine becomes a dodge tank wayyy late in game, but until she becomes promoted, having her be a dodge tank hurts combat Winnar: Dieck exp: Clarine has two exp pools to draw from Winnar: Clarine So, Good Debate Solide. Its my first srs debate so be nice k? k
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