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Mekkah	Aug 10 2008, 06:56 AM
Posts: 667 Group: FEFFer Member #1,400 Joined: July 24, 2007	I could be doing this the long way and answer you point for point, but I think I found a shorter route to victory for Saphy. Saphy just wins this on Warp alone. The only rank that exists is technically some sort of tactics, except there's also a requirement to recruit everyone and keep them alive, but those latter ones are generally assumed sidepoints. What it's all about is making the game shorter somehow. Salem isn't bad at it per se, I would say he speeds things up slightly due to always having 1-2 range, but I could just as easily let someone fight in his stead and 99% of the time nobody would notice. The amount of turns he shortens your quest by might not even need to be expressed in more than one digit. Saphy, however, shaves off huge, huge, huge amounts. Now, for a nice demonstration of how Saphy does this, I happened to come across the videos of a non-Chinese player who managed to SSS-rank the game. ze youtube channel. As you notice, Saphy is absolutely crucial, whereas Salem doesn't really do anything noteworthy (he spams M Up at some point to gain some staff level, but he's nowhere to be seen after that). Saphy turns some maps into 1-2 turn completes thanks to neat rescue tricks, whereas otherwise you would have to walk all the way over there. That could be about ten or twenty turns every time she uses that warp staff. How does Salem weigh up to that? You posted a lot of combat comparisons by chapter, but a lot of that isn't going to happen if you choose to use Saphy and save yourself some trouble. You can effectively split the units in this game into two sorts: combat/healers, and high staff level peoples such as Saphy. The latter sort is obviously much more useful AND there's less of them. Saphy is the only real one until Sleuf/Sarah/Linoan appear, whereas Salem can always be easily replaced, sometimes by units worse than him, often better, at least in some departments. "but i said A-rank" "lol videos are elite mode" I addressed this in my previous post in a pretty long paragraph, but even going along with A-rank: And lowering the bar does not help Salem's case versus Saphy. It becomes 270 turns instead (or 250 and passing up a character), and you get ~9 turns per map instead. Closer to 8 if you go to more than 7 gaidens. That still commands the use of Warp way more often than you can use by replacing Saphy by any other (later-lower-level) staff user. It might not become 100% crucial anymore (though lol at trying it without Saphy...now that's something only a Chinasian could do), but it still saves a shitton of turns to help you reach A-rank in time, maybe give you more backup time to get more items or EXP, or a back-up plan for something. Not much more I can say. In any kind of real ranked FE5, you cannot really beat someone with both Warp and Repair in debate (at least, in my opinion). I think that if we were to do another FE5 debate, it would be better to treat it like FE8 where there's no rankings, so you simply get credit for being cheaper, better at combat, etc (and this is something I might hand Salem a win for).


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