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Mekkah	Sep 12 2008, 01:23 AM
Posts: 667 Group: FEFFer Member #1,400 Joined: July 24, 2007	If durability > offense, and helping EXP can be used as an excuse for not one rounding, then Dorcas could stand to be a lot higher, and not just one step above the unit with second-worst durability in the game. Hell, the unit with the worst durability is above him in Inui's list, lol. Quote: I don't see where you get that Serra rapes her even more. It's the same degree of raep either way, more or less. 3 Priscilla - 23.0 avo, 16.0 hp, 3.0 def, 6.0 res 12 Serra - 37.4 avo, 22.5 hp, 3.6 def, 11.1 res 11 Priscilla - B Erk, C Guy 41.6 avo, 19.6 hp, 5.2 def, 11.0 res 20/1 Serra - C Erk, B Sain Lightning: 17.5 atk, 15.6 AS, 26.1 crit - - 58.6 avo, 29.5 hp, 8.8 def, 19.4 res I would say this is quite wtfrape. Serra wins every defensive parameter, and then she has quite a load of offense as well, while Priscilla suffers from worse-than-Archer syndrome. 11/1 Priscilla - B Erk, C Guy Fire: 18.2 atk, 11.2 AS, 20.3 crit - - 41.6 avo, 22.6 hp, 7.2 def, 14.0 res Serra still wins, but by a much, much smaller margin, since Priscilla can actually attack now. If we left her unpromoted, she would build up more enemy phase suck, then promote while Serra is like 20/10 (assuming they grow at the same rate unpromoted as promoted...if they actually grow faster, it makes promoting Priscilla at the same time better, soz...). 20/1 Priscilla - A Erk, B Guy Fire: 27.8 atk, 19.8 AS, 35.0 crit - - 74.6 avo, 31.7 hp, 13.5 def, 23.5 res 20/10 Serra - B Erk, B Sain Lightning: 27.0 atk, 24.2 AS, 35.0 crit - - 91.2 avo, 39.0 hp, 16.2 def, 30.4 res For offense, they're even except for Serra's huge AS lead, which she can convert into Atk in the form of Shine to beat out that meaningless .8 lead Priscilla has there. Defense, Serra wins every single parameter, so it's not a contest there at all. 11/10 Priscilla is the same, except she can switch to Thunder now while 20/1 Priscilla cannot. So it helps Priscilla a lot to promote early, since she can counter on enemy phase between 11 and 21 (21 being either 20/1 or 11/10), build up Anima rank for Thunder, and generally have moar movement, plus the option of attacking on player phase if there's no need for healing. If she doesn't do this, Serra completely destroys her in this period. So for 11/10 Pris to be < 20/1, I guess you can argue for...gaining EXP more slowly? Either way, if durability > offense again, then I find Priscilla for second best unit kinda laughable. Quote: The vast majority of enemies in FE7 are unpromoted, meaning that most of the time you'll be one-rounding everything in sight. Meanwhile, despite being unpromoted, these enemies that you're facing are vast in number, so they can still kill you (getting hit for 4 damage by 6 enemies is the equivalent of getting hit for 12 damage by 2 enemies). That's why I say defense > offense. I don't see how they fail so much more at durability than at attacking. Mid and lategame, unpromoted axe users don't have much more than 80 hit before PC avo with their Steel/Hand Axes, and PC Avo frequently forces that to like 20%, might even be 10% or 0%. Lowen isn't more durable against those than, say, Raven. Steel Lances/Javelins are slightly more accurate, but not by much. Steel Swords have better hit%, but they do fail damage. Magic is a little more threatening, but iirc they have about the same Avo/HP, so bleh.


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