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Paperblade	Oct 14 2008, 01:02 AM
Posts: 76 Group: FEFFer Member #1,424 Joined: August 10, 2007	I just rechecked the list. We already have Muarim and Tormod above Vika, which would explain why I was having trouble justifying Vika higher than them beyond "powerlevel her in 4-4" which isn't exactly valid to begin with (even if it is fun to have a Giffca version of Naesala >_>). Quote: 600 BEXP is like .6 of a level for a promoted unit. Whoo. And 0BEXP is like 0 of a level for a promoted unit. Whoo. 600BEXP > 0BEXP. Quote: iirc every gap is guarded by an Archer, so she has to wait for somebody to kill them. If somebody is killing all the enemies on the gaps, there's no point in Vika even going there. Only one is guarded by an Archer directly at the ledge, and he has a tendency to move down it to attack my guys that are below the ledge he's moving down onto. Quote: Not sure if Brom is doubling that much to be a good offensive unit. 2-2 is a FoW chapter so you need all the help you can get, there's no point in not using Nealuchi to help out especially when the characters we're talking about aren't exactly amazing. Nealuchi's major problem is that he has 0 Sight, so I can't use his Flight/Move as well as I'd like because he has to stick relatively close to the team or else he can't attack on the player phase. Brom 2HKOs most enemies with the Steel Axe, Mordecai has 38 (!) Attack and a Defense base as high as most people's Tier 3 Defense caps, and actually doubles some of the slower enemies in 2-2 (mostly Soldiers with Steel Greatlances, and OHKOing Mages and borderline OHKOing Archers). Lucia has a Silver Sword. Nealuchi probably has the best durability (his Avoid is so high that most people have <20% displayed) since he's more durable than Mordy untransformed, but his offense is slightly better than Neph's, and Neph is pretty bad. Quote: You're helping me in most of this, so... Elincia and Harr (depending on if he doubles Generals) are the only people who can take out Generals. Nealuchi's flying lets him nail the mages/archers/smasters easily. And yeah, huge avoid and can abuse archers to stay transformed. Knocked to ~15 what? 15 for Wrath. I sometimes get distracted by the next point and forget to finish my previous thought. Brom rapes Generals with the Hammer. Mordy 2HKOs the Armors easily and borderline vs. Generals, which is really nice because their damage against him is an astounding 0, save the few Axe Generals with Steel Poleaxes. Nealuchi doesn't one round Snipers or SMasters (and there's like 8 other units that can 2 round them), although he will borderline oneround the 2 or so Archers in the level. He's also OHKO'd by the Crossbow enemies, which are more numerous than Bowgun wielders. Also, wut, "can abuse Archers to stay transformed"? He loses gauge if he's attacked by them transformed even if he doesn't counter, and if he's untransformed their massive Hit (unless he's above a ledge) screws him over. Quote: ..Who are you debating for again? It's more like thinking out loud. Quote: Oh whoops, their strength is the same, but Nealuchi will pull ahead because he has a higher growth. Vika's Skill and Mag hardly matter since Ravens don't use Magic and have high Accuracy anyway and don't crit enemies. Nealuchi has higher Speed, Luck, and defensive stats. Neither will hit max stats, but Nealuchi will do more damage and have better defenses plus a level lead so he might get whatever Skill Ravens get at level 30. Vika's great growths are in mostly useless places, so Nealuchi still wins. Better stats and equal if not better usefulness, why Vika > Nealuchi. 14.gif lolmaybe. Nealuchi is base Level 22, meaning he gains EXP like a Level 44 unit (AKA a Level 4 third tier unit). Vika is base Level 13, meaning she gains EXP like a Level 26 unit (Level 6 second tier unit). 4-4 enemies are about ~Level 48-49 last I checked, meaning that if Vika gets ONE kill, she's getting 58 EXP from it. If Nealuchi were to kill that same enemy, he would get 31. Vika gains levels MUCH faster than Nealuchi. Vika got nearly twice as much EXP as Nealuchi, so if they were both being used, she would gain far far more levels than Nealuchi. Vika is also likely to get at least 1 level in the DB chapters, and she's also likely closer to S Strike. Considering that Vika already beats Nealuchi in every growth but Strength and Defense, and gaining a crapton more EXP and being closer to S Strike probably makes up for that, I want to say that Vika's stats are better. And Nealuchi needs to get liek 8 levels to get Tear, which kinda sucks because the Laguz EXP formula consists of suck and fail. I do, however, think that Nealuchi definitely needs to move up. Perhaps not necessarily above Vika, but I don't see a reason for there to be so many spaces between them, especially because Nealuchi's durability in 2-2 and 2-E is freaking hilarious (lolz, 5 Avoid and 20HP vs. 6 Defense vs. Neph, and that's him untransformed)


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