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Conan O'Brien	Nov 19 2008, 02:52 PM
SKILLNADEN ÄR DRINKABILITY Posts: 2,781 Group: Veteran Member #16 Joined: June 8, 2005	dashdancedan Nov 17 2008, 01:51 PM II Kings 2:23-24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. Lol Bible. Mistranslation. The original Hebrew uses the word for youths, usually understood to mean teenagers. If the bears killed 42 of them, there had to be much more. Not to mention you left out their taunt, "Go up, thou bald head." They were telling to go to Heaven. It was little less than a death threat from a band of teenagers. Quote: Wedlock and Divorce stem from the "traditional" idea of marriage, which I strongly disagree with for the inherent bigotry present in the current definition (man and woman lol) as well as the implication by both sides that the only way to foster a supportive environment is to get married and go through with the dresses and tuxedos and whatnot. With the increase in cohabitating couples, it's no surprise more children are being born into wedlock because the definition hasn't changed to reflect the new social phenomena. That's all nice, but my beef wasn't children being born out of wedlock, I specifically mentioned blacks for a reason. Out-of-wedlock children in other countries and among rich whites often still have the father present, they just aren't married. But there is a specific problem within inner city black communities with father abandonment. Obama himself addressed it in his Father's Day address. Quote: As for STD Research, any and all feasible attempts at preserving public health in my book are A-OK. ANY feasible attempts? That's a bold statement. In any case, if it hadn't been for the Sexual Revolution, we wouldn't need STD research, because it's only now that it's become a serious problem. Has there been a decline in drug recently? That's good. But I was talking about big picture. How many people were doing heroin and marijuana in the 40's? Not many. Drug use in America was fueled almost entirely by the rebellious 6o's, even with full knowledge of the risks. The pork argument is a tad anachronistic. It wasn't until Pasteur that we knew about microbes causing illness. Illness was thought to be caused by demons and curses, and after Galen, an imbalance in the body's humors. In fact, I don't think raw food was seen as dangerous. I'm pretty sure they only cooked food because it tasted better and, in the cases of Jews, dietary laws demanded such. In any cases, I'd say it's all rather moot anyways. As for the seemingly horrific Biblical law, I wouldn't worry about it. First of all, the laws served a definite purpose. At the time they were written, the Israelites were surrounded by pagan tribes that combined worship of their deities with ritualistic orgies and feasts. In other words, it was very alluring. If extremely strict laws weren't put in place, they'd influence Judaism, if not defeat it entirely. From a secular perspective, it was necessary for the survival of their heritage and customs. It'd be no different from declaring English the national language. From religious perspective, God says so. Quote: What? So it's better to have a system set in stone, even if it's a bullshit, archaic, arbitrary and other words with negative connotations system? The western world used to have a system like that, big guy. And it sucked ass. Honestly? Yeah. I'd rather have fascism than anarchy, if it came down to it. I think the Muslim world is stage to some of the worst atrocities in the world. It was an extreme example, I know that, and it would never work here. But if the war in Iraq proved anything, it was that Sadaam Hussein's totalitarian regime kept order more than an Iraqi democracy. Quote: Morality is a made up thing by leaders of various societies and, in early days, religion (since the two went hand in hand, mostly due to lack of understanding of the world and universe) to keep the masses in place and maintain the status quo. The leaders liked the status quo, because they were in power, and the world revolves around power. From race to gender to class to every single relationship you have, there is an issue of power. Proof maybe? Other than random postulating? I can do it too. Moral relativism was something made up by selfish philosophers who wanted nothing more than to excuse their seemingly immoral acts. Want to murder 11 million Jews or 30 million kulaks? Nothing wrong with that under moral relativism! Want anonymous sex and cocaine every week to fill the emptiness in your life? That's A-okay. After all, morals were just made up by "the Man". Quote: Because of this, the so-called decline of morality is no big issue to me. I don't think it's that today's people don't have any morals that cause our social problems. On the contrary, social problems today are not nearly as bad as they were a hundred years ago. I think the main thing that causes social problems is the perpetuation of power stratification by those in power. ... please don't tell me you're a Marxist. Most of society's problems I would actually pin on the lower segments of society. Generally speaking, it's not the CEO's who are raping and murdering. Frankly, I think it's the victim mentality that's driving society's problems, more so than any actual victimization by the powerful. I think they just make convenient targets.
	~~Wind Sword Quote: Please keep Christian bashing to a minimum. This is mainly the American South (and mainly Evangelical death cults), which is similar to Afghanistan under the Taliban. Touching. Scientology Quote: Clones are create and people can't bore a clone. Scientifically they are called born and not created. The only way to pre-determine their genes is if they are already out in the world usually in a pod that would resemble the sac in a mothers womb. Take Star Wars for example. Smartest post ever made.

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