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Yzarc	Nov 19 2008, 03:23 PM
Coxian Posts: 3,432 Group: Veteran Member #308 Joined: July 8, 2005	Wind Sword Honestly? Yeah. I'd rather have fascism than anarchy, if it came down to it. I think the Muslim world is stage to some of the worst atrocities in the world. It was an extreme example, I know that, and it would never work here. But if the war in Iraq proved anything, it was that Sadaam Hussein's totalitarian regime kept order more than an Iraqi democracy. But we're not comparing fascism to anarchy. You're saying you'd rather have fascism than an inconsistent government, which is far from anarchy. Our nation has a constantly changing and progressive view on morality, so it only makes sense that our laws change with it. If you want to argue that morality doesn't change, go ahead. I'll bring up slavery, witch burnings, the crusades. Wind Sword Proof maybe? Other than random postulating? You want me to prove how people thought thousands of years ago? Sorry, you got me there. But I can tell you that it really doesn't make sense for morality to exist before or beyond humanity. That's why you have different morals depending on geography and culture - Because morality is not consistent. If morality was not a social construct, and it was just universal, then the world would be perfect, because every culture and society would have the exact same view of morality. Wind Sword ... please don't tell me you're a Marxist. I'm not. But I'm certainly not in favor of unregulated capitalism. Wind Sword Most of society's problems I would actually pin on the lower segments of society. Generally speaking, it's not the CEO's who are raping and murdering. Frankly, I think it's the victim mentality that's driving society's problems, more so than any actual victimization by the powerful. I think they just make convenient targets. Of course you can blame the lower class for all the problems. They're the ones doing it of course! And the CEOs don't rape and murder, so they're beacons of morality. And black people mostly only kill black people, so they need to shape up, but it's not our problem. Yes, the lower class do commit the more "heinous" crimes, but do you wonder why? Is it because they're bad people or is it because they're lower class? Well, I think everyone agrees that it is because they're lower class, but I think you're trying to argue is that they're in the lower class because they're bad people, and that CEOs are very good people, and that we're in a perfect meritocracy. That's generally untrue. Most people in the lower class are in the lower class because their parents were. And most people in the upper class are there because their parents were. Social and economic mobility, as I've discussed in a different topic, is very very low.


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