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+Reaver	Nov 19 2008, 07:24 PM
Troll Posts: 8,613 Group: Advisor Member #47 Joined: June 9, 2005	Wind Sword That's all nice, but my beef wasn't children being born out of wedlock, I specifically mentioned blacks for a reason. Out-of-wedlock children in other countries and among rich whites often still have the father present, they just aren't married. But there is a specific problem within inner city black communities with father abandonment. Obama himself addressed it in his Father's Day address. There's also a specific problem with murder in the African American community between African American males. Implicit connection? I think so. Fathers aren't making the conscious choice to abandon their children and homicide rates have been dropping. The problem faced by the African American community is not one of irresponsibility but a continuation of the problems rooted in violence between African American males. Wind Sword ANY feasible attempts? That's a bold statement. In any case, if it hadn't been for the Sexual Revolution, we wouldn't need STD research, because it's only now that it's become a serious problem. Human interaction also encourages the spread of disease, does that suddenly make human interaction immoral? Wind Sword Has there been a decline in drug recently? That's good. But I was talking about big picture. How many people were doing heroin and marijuana in the 40's? Not many. Drug use in America was fueled almost entirely by the rebellious 6o's, even with full knowledge of the risks. The big picture? "In 2002 and 2003, an estimated 1.7 million Americans (less than 1 percent of persons aged 12 or older) had used heroin at least once in their lifetime and had also used oxycodone nonmedically at least once in their lifetime. Among persons aged 12 or older, an estimated 1.9 million (0.8 percent) had used heroin at least once in their lifetime, but had never used oxycodone nonmedically. An estimated 11.0 million (4.6 percent) had used oxycodone nonmedically at least once in their lifetime, but had never used heroin." (Source) You mean how less than 2% of our society has used heroin? That's one of the growing factors of the immorality in American society? Wind Sword The pork argument is a tad anachronistic. It wasn't until Pasteur that we knew about microbes causing illness. Illness was thought to be caused by demons and curses, and after Galen, an imbalance in the body's humors. In fact, I don't think raw food was seen as dangerous. I'm pretty sure they only cooked food because it tasted better and, in the cases of Jews, dietary laws demanded such. People cooked raw food because it didn't make them sick after it was cooked. Surprisingly enough that's most likely why people didn't ingest Hemlock (unless you're Socrates): obviously it's the same process going through. And it doesn't change the process even if they believe demons are the root of disease and sickness: you cook the meat to get rid of the demons inside, even if you're not thinking about killing microbes which cause disease. Wind Sword As for the seemingly horrific Biblical law, I wouldn't worry about it. First of all, the laws served a definite purpose. At the time they were written, the Israelites were surrounded by pagan tribes that combined worship of their deities with ritualistic orgies and feasts. In other words, it was very alluring. If extremely strict laws weren't put in place, they'd influence Judaism, if not defeat it entirely. From a secular perspective, it was necessary for the survival of their heritage and customs. It'd be no different from declaring English the national language. From religious perspective, God says so. So then people can define the word of God? The situation merits two logical responses: the word of God is temporal (as I doubt you'd deny the inanity of some of the given laws) or the word of God is not the word of God (as people can adjust God's words to fit their times). The concept of God implies that he is omniscient and never wrong, so why would he make laws that people - Christians even - don't obey or agree with anymore?
	Neon,June 8 2005 07:34 PM @Reaver: Me grammer is better than ur post count newbie. HJ, December 30 2008 06:20 PM You gave Inui his first (and last?) sexual experience, didn't you? That's historic. Favorite Staffer Summer 2008 -- Send me a Personal Message

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