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I'd say the connection is the other way. No father. Psych damage, Kid grows up to be a murderer. Sad, but it happens. According to Wikipedia, 27 per 1,000 blacks were victims of violent crime. Not nearly enough to account for the staggering numbers. I'd say a lot of black men are definitely making the choice to abandon their children, as awful as it sounds.
I think the hypermasculinity of the African American male brings about the high murder rate. The societal strain for African Americans to fit their stereotype, one of unrestrained masculinity, brings about many of the violent crimes in the African American community.

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Low drug rates. Good. But my understanding was that heroin wasn't exactly recreational drug of choice. Marijuana and meth are bound to be higher. In any case, one of fifty people has done heroin? That's still decently high in my book.
"Decently High", but it doesn't mean morality is going straight downhill. Keep in mind drugs like this - namely cocaine - used to be legal.

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I didn't say people decided that Word of God. I meant that God, or the Israelites for secularists, put down seemingly arbitrary rules simply to set themselves apart from pagans around them. Did the rules change? Yes. But if God set down the rules with the full intention that he'd relax them later with my man JC. It reminds me of the time he told Abraham to kill Isaac. Obviously he never intended to go through with it, so he couldn't be called a waffler.
Wasn't our boy JC also a practicing Jew who followed most of the rules in the Torah?

And I know this wasn't from our debate, but:
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Morality doesn't change. No one argues that slavery and witch burnings were once moral, only they just thought they were moral actions. That isn't changing morality. In fact, the reasons that those things stopped taking place is because we slowly realized they were immoral.
How isn't this changing morality? The Rules of Morality One Day include: "Slavery is moral." The next day, the rules are "Slavery is not moral." Even if we recognize something is immoral, it doesn't change the fact that once it was moral by societal standards. If you can make the same argument about God setting down rules to protect Judaism from pagan tribes with the intention of lifting such laws later with his boy JC, then you can't really deny that morality does indeed change.
Neon,June 8 2005
07:34 PM
@Reaver: Me grammer is better than ur post count newbie.

HJ, December 30 2008
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You gave Inui his first (and last?) sexual experience, didn't you? That's historic.

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