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+Reaver	Jan 7 2009, 12:16 PM
Troll Posts: 8,612 Group: Advisor Member #47 Joined: June 9, 2005	Sentenal Jan 6 2009, 11:04 PM We don't need to be under the banner of the UN to help "crimes against humanity". Support with what? Even when we were going into Iraq, the UN did nothing. The reasoning at the time was because of allegations of WMDs, but that also doesn't change the fact that Saddam was guilty of many crimes against humanity. Where was UN support there? The UN itself didn't want part in it, and primarily due to anti-Americanism. We don't need to be under the umbrella of the UN to have allies help us in a war, like what Great Britain and many other countries showed us. You act as if the UN has exclusive rights to being the only people to stand against "crimes against humanity". The US can still stand against that, and not submit its sovereignty. It sure helps, especially because if, like you said, we went into Iraq to stop Saddam Hussein's "crimes against humanity' we would've had more UN support and would've easily avoided a lot of the anti-American sentiment we see around the world because we ignored the United Nations. If you want to say the United Nations was "anti-American" before we metaphorically flipped the bird to every member of the United Nations, that's arguable considering author Sergia Fabbrini that our invasion of Iraq started such heavy anti-American sentiment in Europe. They can't be against us before we give them reason to be against us. The United Nations is the ideal tool to wage war against crimes against humanity because then we avoid the anti-American response which has resulted from our attempt to stop Saddam Hussein from comitting "crimes against humanity", which I don't think the Bush Administration coined until ties to Al-Qaeda and Nuclear Weapons programs weren't found. We can avoid dealing with all this bitching. Also, you act like by subjecting ourselves to this we forfeit our sovereignty, which I find to be a gross exaggeration. As long as we don't commit crimes against humanity, we have no logical reason to fear the United Nations verbally "stripping" our power, especially because you've mentioned we're in essence the muscle of the United States. Furthermore, we don't lose control to the United Nations because we're only joining a court to prosecute human rights. We're not suddenly giving our military to UN control or adopting special laws to meet the standards of the UN, merely sitting in a court. It's comprimable to global jury duty.
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