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Simon	Jan 25 2009, 06:17 PM
The strongest among you may not wear a crown Posts: 3,318 Group: Veteran Member #885 Joined: August 19, 2006	YaoMing Jan 25 2009, 12:23 AM Everyone does have a breaking point. That's the point, I believe. Somebody who would typically never say anything even if motivated with money, power, freedom or whatever might say something if tortured. I'm not saying its right. But that is the point of torture. It can be effective. Have you read 1984, by chance? George Orwell does a great job illustrating what Soja was saying. minor spoilers The main character ends up getting tortured at one point in the novel. The overseer of the torture session holds up five fingers, and asks the main character to tell him how many fingers he is holding up. Eventually, the main character says whatever the overseer wants him to say in order to avoid torture. In other words, if you go in hoping to acquire a specific answer and you start to ask about specific people, then the tortured one will eventually say whomever you want that person to say -- not to give a correct answer, necessarily, but to avoid pain. That's the main reason why torture tends to lack reliability. By the way, anyone who associates the closing of Guantanamo Bay with the release of all the inmates isn't giving Obama's intelligence enough credit, in my opinion. As an aside, it seems like the best solution is to give the suspected terrorists a military court trial as an unlawful combatant. They are enemy combatants, regardless of creed or status as an army -- they identify themselves as such, why should we not? At the same time, they are not POWs -- a terrorist and, say, a British soldier during the Revolution are not the same kind of cmobatant by any stretch of the imagination.
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