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Apr 4 2009, 10:59 AM
Yes, I know, but I've seen Inui make claims like that so often that I just had to say it. Besides, as I've shown, his claim didn't even hold true.

I suppose you might have a point about Oguma vs. Wolf/Zagaro, but if Oguma has trouble doubling, then so have Abel and Cain, so that definitely doesn't yield them any advantage. Just saying that to support my point of Oguma vs. Kain/Abel.
No, you didn't do shit.

You gave Oguma a stupid level lead he doesn't even have.

Every single enemy in Chapter 1 is giving out literally 60 EXP, since it's 10 EXP for a hit and then 30 EXP for the kill, and it takes 4 hits to kill them. Cain, Abel, Caeda, and Marth are obviously being fed every single kill and the sword users are the ones baiting in hits, with Jeigan doing this as well. Then everyone has to attack the boss at once and camp him really hard and it takes forever to beat him, so there's even more EXP.

Cain and Abel being less than level 4 after that chapter has yet to ever happen with me, and I actually use Jeigan...

So their stats are much more comparable than you said they were.

On top of that, they have mobility leads which do matter in terms of getting places and escaping. They can attack without taking counters, which is incredibly useful, and this makes them way more durable. Javelins are amazing. I think it's the best overall weapon. Cain and Abel have a two way support with each other that actually lets them dodge shit and hit with crappy weapons.

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Lena is too high. Her stats suck monkey balls, and staves aren't really much special in a game where generic replacements and reclass units can heal as well. All she has is Warp staff, and after promo nearly everyone can do that, and before that warping is generally undesirable.


Did you forget about Hammerne? Iunno, man. I found her to be really nice to have around and not bad at all as a Sage. Her averages aren't too bad and she isn't one-shotted usually. Her durability isn't much different from the other magic users besides Merric.

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Xane should be pretty much above anyone except Zagaro and Wolf, since he's basically a carbon copy of anything you want.


Nah.

He has to use a turn in order to transform, so he's minus 1 turn compared to everyone else on every other 5th turn.

Her starts off with his horrible base HP, which will force 2-3 healers to heal him, which is good for the healers' EXP, but they probably don't need it and it would be better for them to focus on healing the rest of the team. If Xane is copying someone like Zagaro in order to frontline, the healers can't safely go to him and heal him a lot.

He doesn't do shit in terms of supports.

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Linda being anything but Bottom is ridiculous. Just look at her durability. Hell, what is Marth doing below there?


She's hard to raise and not durable enough to use? What?

I reclass her into a Cleric, raise her up a lot as one by spamming good staves, which is incredibly easy to do, and then reclass her back to a mage. She'll soon promote and have good weapon levels in both staves and tomes and her gigantic Mag stat is awesome. She grows enough in HP to not die in one hit and she's never doubled. She also has nice Evd with supports and terrain, both of which are abundant later on.

Aura is also rape.

Linda destroyed the last few chapters of the game on both playthroughs I did because of her crazy offense. She also raped every Gharnef on the map really easily.

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Beck and Jake should be next to each other.


Beck
Str: 6/25%
Skl: 4/30%
Lck: 5/35%

Jake
Str: 5/30%
Skl: 1/50%
Lck: 3/50%

I feel much safer using Beck. Both will gain few levels overall and those are the only three stats that matter for them.

Oh wait...I just saw support stuff with regards to them, and Jake rapes him there, so he gets Hit boosts more. Not bad. You're right, I suppose.

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Maria sucks about as much as Linda, just moreso due to no Aura.


I probably did overrate Maria, but I don't she's bottom tier.

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I question Cain and Abel in the same tier as Wolf and Zagaro as well. Invincibility >>>>> movement lead.


Cain and Abel are almost invincible. They have nice HP, decent Def, good WT control, and boosts to their Evd from supports. They also have significantly better offense overall. Great offense + supports + mobility > being invincible. At least in the case when the durability of the other units is fine enough. This is like how Gatrie loses to the Paladins in FE 9.

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