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Successor of Raphael

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Availability means nothing if you suck through most of it. Ilyana is nothing special in part 1 - a low durability unit in a low durability team. Just added baggage, really.

Then in part 3, she rejoins you're worst unit. With little or no redeeming features. This carries on into part 4. Quite frankly, I'd rather field a unit other than her every time, meaning she's a detriment as she takes away a slot from a better unit.

I can even see Ilyana going down.


Ilyana in part 1 is the main alternative mage to Micaiah. While Micaiah is Thani nuking and Leonardo is picking off the weakest units around, Ilyana can be striking most everyone else.

In my opinion:

1-3 = 1 level from hitting high defense units (because you do not want Micaiah to take all of them)
1-4 = 1 level and some exp
1-5 = 2 levels by going east with whoever (I usually use Micaiah and Sothe), one of those because of exp from the last level
1-6-1 = 1 level and some exp
1-6-2 = 1 level and some exp
1-7 = 2 levels (good Ilyana level + exp from last)
1-8 = probably the only time she may not be getting a level, but some exp
1-F = promotion and likely level 2

The special thing about her is that she can carry stuff to Ike's team, most notably skills. Some people are hellbent on letting the part 1 team rot because of how much they "suck", so if you want to bring some skills to help Ike's group, she can at least do that, though I wouldn't say this has much bearing on her tier position.

Anyway, see Soren, only make her live a tad longer because of Shade in exchange for Rhys-like offense. She also happens to make a decent candidate for the final chapter: she has access to a staff should you need it and she beats out many units in 4-F-3. I guess I'll retract my earlier statement and say that she might stay in low tier, but I personally feel she should be above Edward (a unit who needs to be even further down in low tier) and possibly Makalov, but I haven't made an argument for that yet.

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When did i say that?



Well, the infinite exp and gold parts I picked up from:

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After gettign ragnell he has a weapon with infinite exp, so he basically costs 0 gold per atatck from then on, and even beforehand, you have 2 ettards which cost 0 gold per attack too.



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Oh and you convinced me: Where should they both go, precisly? Personally, i think Mist should go down.


I believe they are both upper-mid tier units. Sorta like high tier in Part 3 to about middle of mid tier in part 4 (as you may not be using either one in the final chapter). You can order them however, as it really comes down to preference. Most accept Mist's durability and ability to get a horse as the winning edge. I say that this is brought down by her worse performance before promoting (which isn't happening until late Part 3 anyway), while Rhys never needs a promotion to be good at what he does, so I personally believe that Rhys > Mist, but again, totally up to you. Upper-mid for both, or no worse than middle of mid.



Also!

I completely forgot the other unit I wanted to lambaste: Geoffrey. He's not fit for mid tier. He is around for 9 maps, 5 if you count the final together, 4 if you consider the fact that he's outclassed by Oscar and Kieran for the final. In his starting chapter, he boasts a good offense, yes, but you know that everyone else will have more chances to be used. It makes more sense to train up Kieran and Makalov over blasting stuff with the Brave Lance. In fact, that Brave Lance would be put to better use with Marcia, because her offense is the one that really needs it (doubles just as much, if not more, and has lower Atk), or if you like him, Danved. He better hand it over before the chapter ends, anyway.

You are not going to see him in 2-F. At least, I never do, thanks to clearing arrow-threats from in front of the boss, setting Elincia up, and then blasting the boss with Meteor + Amiti for an easy finish. If you want more exp, then yeah, you'll see him, but he will be insignificant. Better off weakening stuff for Makalov.

He comes for one fight in Part 3. Kieran is, at worst, even with him. Marcia is still pretty good here. Calill will ultimately surpass him in usefulness. The other two aren't detriments if trained, but I suppose if you don't train them, they're about as good as Geoffrey, which isn't very good at all.

You then see him in one of the largest exp chapters in the game. Part 4 = you focus on those going to 4-F = you're not using Geoffrey for anything but preventing an untimely death.

He's bad because he's not a good contributor outside of Paragon. Good example of a good character turned bad because of circumstances out of his hands.
Edited by Successor of Raphael, Jun 2 2009, 10:41 PM.
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