Simon

Jul 20 2009, 12:03 PM

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.To the first statement: no, it isn't. It shouldn't have been that bad for the Republicans in 1992-1996, it shouldn't have been that bad for the Democrats in 2000-2008, and it shouldn't be this bad for the Republicans now. Both parties have been ridiculously excessive in their partisanship pretty much as long as I've been alive.

It hasn't been bad for Republicans from 1981 to 2008 where they pretty much guided the government, even Clinton would be a moderate at best. Also you want to know where this partisan rancor started? It can be traced to the day in 1981, when billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife fielded a reporter's question about his financial backing of conservative groups.

"You fucking communist cunt, get out of here," he said to Karen Roythmer of the Columbia Journalism Review. He went on to tell her that she was ugly, and her teeth were 'terrible.' Of Roythmer's mother, who was not present, he said 'She's ugly too.', sensing it would be prudent to end the interview, Roythmer wrapped it up and thanked Scaife for his time. He bade her farewell with a cherry 'Don't look behind you.'

That's the funny thing about tone. It's so subjective. Usually, I find it's enough to call someone a 'fucking communist cunt,' without having to gild the lily by disparaging her teeth and issuing a veiled death threat.

Then again, Scaife has contributed over $250 million dollars to right wing groups, like the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society, Cato Institute, the Hoover Institution, Paul Weyrich's Free Congress Foundation, and the American Enterprise Institute. Moreover, he's funded the rise of the right wing media apparatus, supporting conservative college newspapers and group up publicans,from the respectable Public Interest, to the inarguably disreputable American Spectator.

Of course these created the wind tunnel effect that lead to all the Clinton witch hunts that the Republicans held. Hostile investigations that I could only dream the dems had the balls to do against the Bush Administration. Was it for the good of the country? No, it's because the Republicans hated Clinton for who he was and what they couldn't be. It's funny how W said he was going to change the tone, seeing as it was his own party that created it. Unless it was code for Elect Bush will improve because he is a consensus builder, a uniter, not a divider, and a compassionate conservative. Elect Gore, and we'll nuke the living fuck out of him just like we did the last guy. Pity Gore's victory was overturned by judicial activism of all things.

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And that cute little spiel in the second paragraph just totally destroyed your credibility. Taking the right-wing extremist viewpoint and applying it to everyone that doesn't outright agree with everything Obama thinks, says, or does is called generalization, and doing so pretty much wipes whatever moral high ground you're trying to take out -- don't insult people with such generalizations and also expect to be seen as the victim for eight years risen again as the liberated one thanks to Obama.

Nice misrepresentation of what I said, I was pointing out the hypocrisy of those same people who find every little fault of Obama, were those same people who said questioning the Bush Administration was treason. I don't need moral high ground to deal with the likes of you either, we're going to drag you and your selfish Ilk into the 21th century.

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Oh, and for the love of Christ, get over yourself. I don't care if you're some first-timer or a former lead admin, statements like this:

What? I can't add a little amusement to this? Why do you have to be such a funsucker...?

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But given that I do know who you are, I think I can also guess that you don't care whether you're endeared to anyone -- you're just here to trash anyone that has any sort of conservative or religious leaning on just about anything, regardless of where they actually stand as a whole. Look out, the atheist militant liberal is on the prowl!/quote]

Oh you got me, wrong I don't disparage conservatives, or organized religion, I just point out how both have been hijacked by extremists. You want a Republican who sticks to principle, get Ralph Carr, Berry Goldwater or Ron Paul. Religion can give people hope and purpose, but it shouldn't be the driving force for everyone's life.


And seeing as outside my first comment, which you used a fallacy to attack, it. You cannot defend the tea parties and instead attack me personally. I accept your surrender.

Good day sir *blows a kiss*

Edited by Black Knight, Jul 20 2009, 05:51 PM.