North Korea And Iran Developing Nuclear Weapons

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North Korea And Iran Developing Nuclear Weapons
Topic Started: Jun 11 2005, 03:23 PM (159 Views)
Optimus Prime	Jun 11 2005, 03:23 PM Post #1
Posts: 369 Group: FEFFer Member #90 Joined: June 9, 2005	As you all probably know Iran and North Korea are both developing Nuclear Weapons. I think that they should not develop Nuclear Weapons. North Korea claims that they have built a Nuclear Weapon or two. Their leader Kim Jong Il says that he will use it against the U.S. if North Korea is threaten. Now the U.S., South Korea, Japan, China, and Russia are trying to convince North Korea to disband its nuclear program. But recently North Korea is now wiling to return to the negotiating tables. Clinton tried to persuade the North Koreans but he failed. If the negotiations don't work the U.N. could try to put sanctions on North Korea or, we could possibly be facing war with North Korea, but this time the we would have more help from other nations and we would be even backed by the U.N. Iran on the other hand has not developed a nuke. England, France, and Germany are doing all that they can to try to persuade Iran to give up its program. If their program resumes it could take them at least a few years in order to built one while others say it could be a matter of months. What could we do at the meantime? If we go to war with Iran it would be much harder to fight them since our forces are spread thin around that region. Well could win with our Navy and Air Force but as for our ground forces it would be much harder since Iran is a much bigger country compared to Afghanistan and Iraq. Or instead of using military force we could rely on democratic movements in Iran. What is your view about this?
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+Santi	Jun 11 2005, 04:57 PM Post #2
Da Niggaz Leader Posts: 4,748 Group: Advisor Member #57 Joined: June 9, 2005	I think that the the other countries should mind their business. Why are they telling other countries to not make nuclear weapoins when they have some of their own? It all just comes down to the need for power.



Hound of Cullann	Jun 11 2005, 05:21 PM Post #3
Unregistered	North Korea, though has nuclear weapons, know that if they luanch one, they'll have China, Russia, Japan, South Korea, and the USA ready to rape the hell out of that pathetic communist country. And we also know if we do something as brash as attack them, they'll screw the world over by launching them. In short, it's a current standoff. Kim Jong Il is not stupid, and I doubt he'll luanch them, considering how many countries will pounce him if he does. Iran... hard to trust. They were Anti-American when 9/11 happened, then when we invaded Iraq, they all of sudden supported us. Iran's true policy is very unclear.
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BloodRain	Jun 11 2005, 08:51 PM Post #4
[[Bower of Fair Lilies]] Dearest, I don't give a damn. Posts: 928 Group: Veteran Member #108 Joined: June 10, 2005	Boohoo, they are making nuclear weapons. United States shouldn't be the only country allowed to have nuclear weapons and ban others from having them. We should either all have them, or BAN EVERY COUNTRY FROM HAVING THEM ENTIRELY.
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Hound of Cullann	Jun 11 2005, 09:55 PM Post #5
Unregistered	BloodR Jun 12 2005, 01:51 AM Boohoo, they are making nuclear weapons. United States shouldn't be the only country allowed to have nuclear weapons and ban others from having them. We should either all have them, or BAN EVERY COUNTRY FROM HAVING THEM ENTIRELY. We, y'know, kind of deactiviated every damn one of them during the Rwanda and Kosovo wars. I don't know how old you were then, but some people should remember what happened then.
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Sentenal (OLD)	Jun 11 2005, 10:04 PM Post #6
Mr. Manly American Republican Posts: 4,310 Group: Veteran Member #52 Joined: June 9, 2005	While in theory, banning every conuntry from having nukes is a good idea, it doesn't work in practice. The main purpose of the US's nukes right now is deteriance. Basically, the idea behind it is this: If you launch a nuke at us, we do it to you. This worked in the Cold War because the Soviet Union was somewhat sane, and valued it's existance. Unfortunately, deteriance doesn't work so well in todays world. North Korea, Iran, they are not countries I would call sane. They are little kids wanting to play with the big boy's guns to get more power. And unlike the adults, they would use them. Deteriance is there in an attempt to prevent nuclear attacks on this country. I fear that these countries won't care. Oh yeah, the US doesn't "ban" countries from having nukes. Russia, the major European countries, etc etc all have nukes, and the US isn't trying to get them to disarm. Its onlt the smaller, more dangerous countries. As for what we should do: North Korea is dangerous. When they complete a nuclear missile, I fully expect China to really get pissed at them. Iran, well, if they get a nuclear weapon, I see it getting in the hands of terrorist. I also think if we acted on Iran, we WOULD get help from our European "allies", thus cutting down on the need for our own soldiers having to go in. Hopefully it won't come to that. What this comes down to is small, third world countries trying to upset the balance of power, which nessissarily leads to war.
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BloodRain	Jun 11 2005, 11:41 PM Post #7
[[Bower of Fair Lilies]] Dearest, I don't give a damn. Posts: 928 Group: Veteran Member #108 Joined: June 10, 2005	Well...I probably wasn't born. I'm 15 so you tell me when that happened. Anyways, yes it only works in theory. But you have to admit that the US is a little weird with how they deal business in some countries. We do monopolize some things and so forth. We deactivated them but we still posses them. Sorry Sentenal for some of my errors. North Korea needs to stop putting money into military and start feeding its people.
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+Santi	Jun 11 2005, 11:45 PM Post #8
Da Niggaz Leader Posts: 4,748 Group: Advisor Member #57 Joined: June 9, 2005	^The Rwanda genocide happened about ten years ago I think. And about Kosovo, it was in the nineties, but I'm not sure exactly when.



Sentenal (OLD)	Jun 11 2005, 11:45 PM Post #9
Mr. Manly American Republican Posts: 4,310 Group: Veteran Member #52 Joined: June 9, 2005	Ideally, fully banning nuclear weapons would be great. Its just not possible with nut-job countries.
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Malice	Jun 13 2005, 01:08 AM Post #10
Posts: 134 Group: FEFFer Member #145 Joined: June 12, 2005	[size=1]From my opinion, Iran could probably be dealth with peacefully through politics, North Korea, on the other hand, is a do or die situation. There will be a war with NK, there is no other options. You can say we can negotiate, but Kim Jong Il has proven to be a bit stubborn, time and time again. Might as well have all the men in this generation to strap on their seatbelts and wait for the second Korean War. The only thing we can hope for is that NK won't use it's nuclear power, it will be hell to clean up after that. But every day, they get a bit stronger, with capability to hit the west coast of the US even. A nuke hitting Los Angeles would be hell, considering our economy is already crippled and in flames from the debt and Bush presidency. Not to mention the loss of life, there are a lot of people in the LA area, and if the North Koreans have modern day nuclear capabilities, it won't be pretty at all. Worse than the A-bombs on Japan, much worse. All leaning to World War III? Eh, eh?[/size]



Hound of Cullann	Jun 13 2005, 11:31 AM Post #11
Unregistered	BloodR Jun 12 2005, 04:41 AM Well...I probably wasn't born. I'm 15 so you tell me when that happened. Anyways, yes it only works in theory. But you have to admit that the US is a little weird with how they deal business in some countries. We do monopolize some things and so forth. We deactivated them but we still posses them. Sorry Sentenal for some of my errors. North Korea needs to stop putting money into military and start feeding its people. Kim Il Sung didn't do it, and neither will Jong Il, sadly. They'll be pressured into halting Nuclear Weapon development with so many countries ready to smack them up. The Turks, Greeks, Ethiopians, Americans, South Koreans, Japanese, Romanians, and English whooped them before, and we can do it again. Quote: ^The Rwanda genocide happened about ten years ago I think. And about Kosovo, it was in the nineties, but I'm not sure exactly when. 1995-1996, same time as Rwanda, but, just a little later on. That time period was full of ethnic shitstorms (Especially the Balkan states)
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Malice	Jun 13 2005, 08:49 PM Post #12
Posts: 134 Group: FEFFer Member #145 Joined: June 12, 2005	[size=1]That's what confuses me the most, why would NK start making threats and increasing their nuclear stockpile when asked to disarm? One would question if either Kim Jong Il was either a completely ludicrous leader, or if they had allies. There could be terroist involvement, maybe even whole countries that would rally with NK, some countries we figured wouldn't. Hell, maybe the second Korean War would become another world war, just without the Germans making everyone angry. but just a bit big enough to be called a World War.[/size]



Alteena	Jun 13 2005, 11:07 PM Post #13
^ Thracia Character Posts: 128 Group: FEFFer Member #154 Joined: June 13, 2005	iif it is invented, harsh days are ahead of us. Though for North Korea, I would take out those bombs right away.
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