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| Topic Started: Jun 24 2005, 06:22 AM (146 Views) | |
| Psiwri | Jun 24 2005, 06:22 AM Post #1 |
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Rules, aka limits. Written Limitations on the actions a person can perform. The are intended to keep a professional guideline on behavioral issues. But is that the only thing they limit? I've come do decide that they do not. They limit actions, but they also limit prevention. There are bound to be examples in other cases, where someone who is obviously guiltly of a bad crime, has been comparitively lightly punished for what they did, especially if all they need to do is pay bail. There are all sorts of people who like to bend and test rules to their limits, because freedom is natural instinct and rules limit that, so as a counter people try to get past them. But what if there were no rules? There would be no defined limits to peole's behavior, or defined limits to prevention of unprefered behavior. Perhaps majority ethics should be a better rule, and the opinions of few over each matter as an individual case is more effective. Because rules are static, and situations are by no means the same. There will always be those situations where the rule or in cases "law" is actually the wrong thing to follow, because it was not designed for that particular situation. In overview, rules limit, in both good and bad ways. Which do you think is better, rule by ethics and the individual situation, or rule by static faceless laws? I think you all can tell I am bias to one side of the argument, but that's why this is a debate. |
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| Cyrus | Jun 24 2005, 10:12 AM Post #2 |
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Confucius said (in summary) that the more laws there are the more criminals there are. I'm a little if'y on the subject though. |
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| Hound of Cullann | Jun 24 2005, 10:27 AM Post #3 |
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Rules mare made because fucking morons choose to do stupid shit, and they need a way to be contained. This leads to as to why we should use the death penalty on shoplifters, but that's not the point. If there were no rules, there'd be no control. Thus, humanity starts over, basically. Barbarism back to Civilization. |
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| +Reaver | Jun 24 2005, 10:30 AM Post #4 |
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Rules are needed to keep a healthy and organized society, as morns, meatheads, and the overly barbaric would just steal, vandalize, and murder without consequence. |
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| Jester | Jun 24 2005, 11:29 AM Post #5 |
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Rules are not limitations, they are just for consequences for those who break them |
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| Cyrus | Jun 24 2005, 12:35 PM Post #6 |
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In the eyes of a criminal they kind of are limitations. |
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| Psiwri | Jun 24 2005, 02:01 PM Post #7 |
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I'm not sayign there should be NO rules necesarily, just not static laws that aren't made for specific situations. |
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| Oujay | Jun 24 2005, 06:22 PM Post #8 |
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Thats the big question. How can we make rules that stop criminals, but arent too binding? I, with my idea of anarchy - like government, see the problem with having no rules, but too many rules may be just as bad |
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| FireEmblemgirl | Jun 24 2005, 08:55 PM Post #9 |
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I don't think we should have personal rules. Strict rules, though sometimes unfair in situations help to keep the judge of a crime unbiased. To try to make up rules as you go is a messy business and in my opinion, better left off avoided. |
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Not Waving but Drowning Nobody heard him, the dead man, But still he lay moaning: I was much further out than you thought And not waving but drowning. Poor chap, he always loved larking And now he's dead It must have been too cold for him his heart gave way, They said. Oh, no no no, it was too cold always (Still the dead one lay moaning) I was much too far out all my life And not waving but drowning. -Stevie Smith | |
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| Psiwri | Jun 24 2005, 11:01 PM Post #10 |
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new laws are made all the time 
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| FireEmblemgirl | Jun 25 2005, 01:59 PM Post #11 |
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I never took the time to take the arrows out of my back
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But new rules take a long time to be made. In a case you can't wait months for a new verdict. Rules take time to weigh and process. I don't think you can make rules up for such a difficult situation in a few minutes or hours or even days. |
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Not Waving but Drowning Nobody heard him, the dead man, But still he lay moaning: I was much further out than you thought And not waving but drowning. Poor chap, he always loved larking And now he's dead It must have been too cold for him his heart gave way, They said. Oh, no no no, it was too cold always (Still the dead one lay moaning) I was much too far out all my life And not waving but drowning. -Stevie Smith | |
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| Psiwri | Jun 25 2005, 02:01 PM Post #12 |
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that's still changing them as they go along :/ i said nothing about how long it would take. Oh well, I was just kinda trying to think "outside the box" here and just kinda curious on views over the subject. |
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| FireEmblemgirl | Jun 25 2005, 02:05 PM Post #13 |
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I never took the time to take the arrows out of my back
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Yes but if a crime were to be judged on a new made up set of rules it would have to be done quickly. People can't wait for a year to be decided innocent or guilty. And I respect your ideas Psio. I'm merely sharing my views which seem to differ from yours. No offense meant. |
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Not Waving but Drowning Nobody heard him, the dead man, But still he lay moaning: I was much further out than you thought And not waving but drowning. Poor chap, he always loved larking And now he's dead It must have been too cold for him his heart gave way, They said. Oh, no no no, it was too cold always (Still the dead one lay moaning) I was much too far out all my life And not waving but drowning. -Stevie Smith | |
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| Psiwri | Jun 25 2005, 02:07 PM Post #14 |
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none taken in the first place ^^; just sorta explaining why i posted this. i think what I was sort of trying to instate was that justice was on a more localized basis, but that wouldnt' work in today's world, but it's what was done back in the "uncivlized" medieval days, where the citizens took jsutice into their own hands. |
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| FireEmblemgirl | Jun 25 2005, 02:23 PM Post #15 |
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I never took the time to take the arrows out of my back
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Ah, but taking justice into our own hands was what spawned vigilantes. Vigilantes insued murder and chaos. I think we would be best to stay with our justice system. |
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Not Waving but Drowning Nobody heard him, the dead man, But still he lay moaning: I was much further out than you thought And not waving but drowning. Poor chap, he always loved larking And now he's dead It must have been too cold for him his heart gave way, They said. Oh, no no no, it was too cold always (Still the dead one lay moaning) I was much too far out all my life And not waving but drowning. -Stevie Smith | |
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