Roles of the Fire Emblem

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Roles of the Fire Emblem
Topic Started: Jun 24 2005, 07:48 AM (285 Views)
Rinoa	Jun 24 2005, 07:48 AM Post #1
Unregistered	I've noticed that in each game, that there is a reference to one artifact known as the Fire Emblem. What I don't understand is its use within each game. I can only grasp why it is used in 1 and 3, and even there I don't have a clear explanation of what it's there for. So, I would like to know what it is used for in each game that's been released so far, and that we can figure out its meaning to.
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VincentASM	Jun 24 2005, 09:20 AM Post #2
Posts: 449 Group: FEFFer Member #109 Joined: June 10, 2005	I've seen this question pop one a few times elsewhere, but I keep forgetting the answers :\| In FE 1 the Fire Emblem allowed Marth to open chests, and it had another important use, which I forgot. In FE 3 the Fire Emblem was a part of something known as the Shield of Seals. In order to unlock its true potential 5 Orbs needed to be collected and added to the Fire Emblem. The Fire Emblem/Shield of Seals was used to banish the Earth Dragons. In FE 4 the Fire Emblem is the crest of the Velthomar family. In FE 6 it was the jewel of the Sword of Seals, which was needed in order to use the sword. In FE 7 the Fire Emblem was an important jewel, needed for Zephiel's coming of age ceremony. Only with the Fire Emblem could he be recognised as the crown prince of Bern. In FE 8 the Fire Emblem was the Sacred Stone of Grado, the stone which housed the spirit of the Demon King. Lyon managed to tap into the Fire Emblem's power to make an even stronger stone. With the Fire Emblem no longer needed, Lyon broke it. In FE 9 it is a mysterious artefact that seems to make people go crazy :S FE2 and 5 don't feature the Fire Emblem, but it can be assumed it exists in the same world.
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Rinoa	Jun 24 2005, 10:05 AM Post #3
Unregistered	In Fire Emblem 5, it should be assumed that it's there somewhere, because the continent is still Jugdral, right? And Gaiden, I heard that it's the same world as Fire Emblem 1 and 3, so it would exist there, but not used for anything special.
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Hound of Cullann	Jun 24 2005, 10:12 AM Post #4
Unregistered	Rinoa Jun 24 2005, 03:05 PM In Fire Emblem 5, it should be assumed that it's there somewhere, because the continent is still Jugdral, right? And Gaiden, I heard that it's the same world as Fire Emblem 1 and 3, so it would exist there, but not used for anything special. Fire Emblem 5 Takes place on the Manster Peninsula in Jugdral. The game is mostly Lenster vs. Thracia. Since Thracia is not ruled by the Empire (It's an allied state), the Fire Emblem isn't in it (Though you do meet Yurius in the game, FE5 does not include the Emblem at all).
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Rinoa	Jun 24 2005, 10:19 AM Post #5
Unregistered	Jaffar Jun 24 2005, 03:12 PM Fire Emblem 5 Takes place on the Manster Peninsula in Jugdral. The game is mostly Lenster vs. Thracia. Since Thracia is not ruled by the Empire (It's an allied state), the Fire Emblem isn't in it (Though you do meet Yurius in the game, FE5 does not include the Emblem at all). Ah, well I don't know the storyline to Thracia that well, but I'm taking that Yurius was the original holder of the Fire Emblem?
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Hound of Cullann	Jun 24 2005, 10:40 AM Post #6
Unregistered	Well, Yurius didn't hold the Fire Emblem. It was just his family's crest/artifact. We hear about it from Alvis, Yurius's father, and the first main villian. Those two are the Velthomars. Since their Empire in the 2nd Generation did not expand into the Manster Peninsula (Reason for this is that their ally, Thracia, promised to take out Lenster). Therefor, since the Velthomor's influence never expanded into Manster, the Fire Emblem doesn't appear in FE5. Hope that clears it up.
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Rinoa	Jun 24 2005, 10:46 AM Post #7
Unregistered	Jaffar Jun 24 2005, 03:40 PM Well, Yurius didn't hold the Fire Emblem. It was just his family's crest/artifact. We hear about it from Alvis, Yurius's father, and the first main villian. Those two are the Velthomars. Since their Empire in the 2nd Generation did not expand into the Manster Peninsula (Reason for this is that their ally, Thracia, promised to take out Lenster). Therefor, since the Velthomor's influence never expanded into Manster, the Fire Emblem doesn't appear in FE5. Hope that clears it up. Made everything more clear towards me. So I'm just going to guess it's not used for anything special in 4 and 5. Except for the fact that it's a shiny piece of metal mounted on a wall inside a lonely castle full of bad guys.
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Hound of Cullann	Jun 24 2005, 10:53 AM Post #8
Unregistered	Exactly. As for the FE2 thing, you'll have to clarify with VincentASM. I never played that game, and he's like, the FE encylopedia in human form.
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Father Time	Jun 24 2005, 01:56 PM Post #9
the father of time -_- Posts: 2,288 Group: Veteran Member #38 Joined: June 9, 2005	Jaffar Jun 24 2005, 03:40 PM Well, Yurius didn't hold the Fire Emblem. It was just his family's crest/artifact. We hear about it from Alvis, Yurius's father, and the first main villian. Those two are the Velthomars. Since their Empire in the 2nd Generation did not expand into the Manster Peninsula (Reason for this is that their ally, Thracia, promised to take out Lenster). Therefor, since the Velthomor's influence never expanded into Manster, the Fire Emblem doesn't appear in FE5. Hope that clears it up. That didn't stop the Ropoto cult from moving in to seize Lenster.
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Twilkitri	Jun 24 2005, 10:40 PM Post #10
Posts: 220 Group: FEFFer Member #24 Joined: June 8, 2005	Jaffar Jun 25 2005, 01:40 AM Since their Empire in the 2nd Generation did not expand into the ~~Manster~~Thracia Peninsula (Reason for this is that their ally, Thracia, promised to take out Lenster). Were Blume, Ishtar, Ishtor, Veld etc just on holiday there or something, then
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Father Time	Jun 25 2005, 10:01 AM Post #11
the father of time -_- Posts: 2,288 Group: Veteran Member #38 Joined: June 9, 2005	The Empire obviously didn't rely on Thracia to take control of Lenster. Hence why they moved in and began seizing cities across Northern Thracia, all the while looking for Leaf.
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Hound of Cullann	Jun 25 2005, 05:15 PM Post #12
Unregistered	Valter Jun 25 2005, 03:01 PM The Empire obviously didn't rely on Thracia to take control of Lenster. Hence why they moved in and began seizing cities across Northern Thracia, all the while looking for Leaf. .... I could have sworn FE4's 2nd Generation happened after T776? I'm quite positive the Loput Sect moved into Lenster AFTER T776, no? That's what FE4 shows us, at least. @ Twilkitri - Either your patch is wrong, or it really is the Thracia peninsula (When playing with the patch, it was always called the Manster Peninsula.) Correct me on those issues if they're wrong, please.
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Thief	Jun 25 2005, 05:53 PM Post #13
Posts: 41 Group: FEFFer Member #119 Joined: June 11, 2005	It's Thracia Peninsula. The northern half is called the Manster District. The Freege house was part of the Empire, and we see they moving their forces within the region throughout Thracia 776. Fred, Olwen and Amalda (and few others) were part of Freege's forces. The story take place at the same time as the starting of FE4's second generation story (more or less). That's why Leaf and Celice could join forces at the end of the game. (By FE4 story, this is the point where you'd recruit Hawk/Sety at Manster) Fire Emblem was Velthomer's crest. I suppose having Cyas on your side during the war was enough as its appearance in Thracia 776?



Hound of Cullann	Jun 25 2005, 06:48 PM Post #14
Unregistered	I stand corrected. Theif and the others are more knowledgeable in FE4/5 than I am, so take their word for it.
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Raven the Hero	Jun 25 2005, 07:28 PM Post #15
Hero Posts: 73 Group: FEFFer Member #226 Joined: June 22, 2005	VincentASM Jun 24 2005, 02:20 PM In FE 6 it was the jewel of the Sword of Seals, which was needed in order to use the sword. In FE 7 the Fire Emblem was an important jewel, needed for Zephiel's coming of age ceremony. Only with the Fire Emblem could he be recognised as the crown prince of Bern. In the FE's of Elibe, the Fire Emblem also helped keep the Royal family of Bern keep the throne, didn't it? Is the Fire Emblem the same thing as the crest that appears in the opening of Moshou No Nazo?
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