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| FE8 Newbie Question Thread | |
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| Topic Started: Jul 14 2006, 02:27 PM (1,129 Views) | |
| Tino | Sep 24 2008, 07:37 AM Post #46 |
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Amelia the worst unit in the game? Please think twice before you make such statements. Amelia is not going to be used when you want to beat the game as fast as possible, but she is definitely not the worst unit in the game. |
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| Barst | Sep 24 2008, 03:13 PM Post #47 |
Like I said before... I am perfect.
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To what other standard would a character be held with regard to being judged? Also, for the lulz, what characters are you saying to be so clearly below her and why? |
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| Tino | Sep 24 2008, 03:58 PM Post #48 |
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Let's see... Ewan, Knoll and Syrene for obvious reasons. Myrrh for coming late and having a weapon with only 50 uses that also (if memory serves me well) can't be repaired. Marisa (both routes) for coming late, being mono-swords and having no good supports, even when being played. She also has fail Strength, which doesn't go well with her mono-swords thing. Innes (Ephraim Route) for coming very late and being a sniper. Saleh (Ephraim Route) for coming very late with not too great stats and no supports. Rennac, because he's ugly, has fail stats and his thieving utility isn't as useful as it is in other games, because you already have Colm for the thieving and if necessary, you can always use Door Keys and Chest Keys. Duessel (Eirika Route), because he comes very late and doesn't make up for it with good stats. L'Arachel, because she comes way too late for her level of durability. It's nice that she can heal and is mounted and all that stuff, but she dies very easile. She also doesn't have good supports, if any supports at all. |
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| Mekkah | Sep 24 2008, 05:09 PM Post #49 |
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Still better off than Amelia. It takes Myrrh about five kills to become awesome, and from there she's a resource free monster with massive attacking power and mobility. She needs way less babying than Amelia. Her Dragonstone is a bit of a problem, but while she has it, she's clearly being a positive.
Eirika route Marisa actually comes quite early - the second chapter into the route, the very same one as where Gerik joins. Surely that's not late? Speaking of Gerik, Marisa's his fastest support next to Tethys, and a B gives 2 Def and 10 Avo to both. Then, Tana is there (she'll likely take your lord for a B, but Syrene is lol, Cormag is bleh and slow and Innes isn't great either) and she can support Tethys as well. For the rest, yeah, she's not looking that great, though she does double everything and their dog.
dunno, it's more unique than fighting. But Chest/Door Keys being buyable on map does hurt his keys, as does his phail combat. |
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| Tino | Sep 24 2008, 05:32 PM Post #50 |
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Massive attacking power, yes, that's true. But mobility? She has 6 Move, just like your average character :/ As for her Dragonstone, 50 uses may seem like quite a lot, but considering that a lot of enemies pop up in the chapters you have her, she'll be running out of it faster than you might think. Also, she caps her level pretty quickly, if memory serves well (I can't recall very clearly).
I was mainly talking about Ephraim Route Marisa anyway, but you do have a good point here.
Rennac's job is to pick locks (Colm can do all the stealing from enemies on his own), which pretty much all other units can do, and they actually do it better than Rennac, because they actually contribute something else that's positive to the team. What does Rennac contribe? Fail offense, like you said. Nice. Amelia is quite a bit better than Amelia. |
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| Mekkah | Sep 24 2008, 05:44 PM Post #51 |
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During Ch16 and Ch17 you don't notice, but after that, Myrrh can fly over all the annoying terrain to roast stuff floating around. As an interesting fact, she can kill Lyon I and Riev I in 2 turns in their respective maps given Boots and Tethys help.
She only uses one attack per battle - early on because she doesn't double, after that because nothing survives her wrath. That's ~45 battles of rape. Not really worth of Low tier imo. Capping level? In FE8, with no EXP rank, that changes nothing. It only means she can no longer improve, but she still has wtfm8 offense and stuff even at 20.
Look at the first part of your argument. I could just as easily go "Amelia's job is to uhhhhhhhhh (_everyone else_ can do all the fighting on their own)". Plus, Amelia is phail at combat by herself for a good period, and is climbing out of a pit when Rennac joins. Rennac hasn't built up any phail yet, and as long as he keeps picking, stealing and FoWTorching, he doesn't need to. Yeah, Amelia is better than herself. I suppose. Also, Eph route Saleh has staves, high chance of getting Excalibur/Ivaldi, and general haxness that being a Sage brings. I think even he is better than Amelia. |
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| Former Guest | Sep 25 2008, 12:42 AM Post #52 |
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You can't be serious, Tino. Amelia is pretty obviously the worst character. Most disadvantaged and destined to function at the bottom of the barrel by leagues behind everyone in the game. So whatever you decide to evolve the optimistic loli failure into is kind of beside the point. The only FE generals who receive natural access to the Great Shield/Pavise skill that are any good are Gilliam and Xavier..........then again, Gatrie and Tauroneo are top tiers who can deliver without being capacity singled out for it in FE10. |
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| Mekkah | Sep 25 2008, 03:21 AM Post #53 |
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Dunno, Syrene fails quite hard too, whereas Amelia at least has a decent support list and a period of time where she can be called good. |
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| Barst | Sep 25 2008, 06:10 AM Post #54 |
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Like I said before... I am perfect.
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In order for Amelia to get that period of time, though, she also needs a larger period of time where she can be called worse. |
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| AdamNW | Sep 25 2008, 08:29 PM Post #55 |
Needs moar Sety
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Can I be controversial and say that Amelia > Ewan? |
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| Barst | Sep 25 2008, 08:58 PM Post #56 |
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Like I said before... I am perfect.
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Fire > Javelin, therefore Ewan > Amelia. |
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| Mekkah | Sep 26 2008, 03:01 AM Post #57 |
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Ewan seems better off. The enemies he faces when he's negative tier are monsters, and after that they're only slightly stronger than the ones Amelia faces. And Ewan has accuracy and hits on Res. He has a period of suck as well, but he's better off during it. Amelia has a level lead on him, but also a suck lead. |
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