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Fire Emblem Debate Tournament Points
Topic Started: Oct 18 2006, 08:01 PM (1,622 Views)
+Ema Skye	Oct 18 2006, 08:01 PM Post #1
Snackoos = <3. It's science! Posts: 20,938 Group: Advisor Member #40 Joined: June 9, 2005	Rankings 1. Inui - 45 points 2. Sentenal - 35 points 3. Merk - 28 points 4. CATS - 27 points 5. Hollie - 24 points 6. JediSSJ - 19 points 6. Nick - 19 points 7. Omni - 14 points 7. Bean - 14 points 7. Kamaitachi - 14 points 8. Wind Sword - 11 points 9. Yzarc - 10 points 9. Psio - 10 points 10. Kovu - 8 points 11. Reikken - 7 points 11. Eaichu - 7 points 12. Harem - 4 points 12. mshortie - 4 points 12. odelay - 4 points 12. Reaver - 4 points 12. Dragon Sniper - 4 points 13. Zephyr - 3 points 13. Citan - 3 points 13. Tiltyu - 3 points 13. Sanger - 3 points 14. Simon - 2 points 14. Andras - 2 points 15. Punishment Divine - 1 point 15. Askio - 1 point 15. Mistsukushu - 1 point 15. Bosco - 1 point 15. Santi - 1 point 15. Lord Knight - 1 point 15. Painful - 1 point Updated with FE 6, FE 7, FE 8, and FE 9 results. Points Per Placing 1st. 15 Points 2nd. 12 Points 3rd. 10 Points 4th. 8 Points 5th. 6 Points 7th. 4 Points 9th. 3 Points 13th. 1 Point Judging without entering: 3 points Opinion Based Tier List (not in any specific order) Elite Debaters - the cream of the crop that has proven to be the top debaters in the English Fire Emblem community. Eaichu Inui CATS Merk Sentenal Reikken Top Contenders - the handful of debaters that can not only push the top debaters to try their hardest, but can even win in the end. Simon JediSSJ Yzarc Drowsnam Kamaitachi Hollie Nick Skilled Debaters - the debaters with above average skill that can place well and hold their own against top contenders and the elite. Bean Psio Omni Citan Zephyr Harem Wind Sword
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+Ema Skye	Nov 28 2006, 11:27 PM Post #2
Snackoos = <3. It's science! Posts: 20,938 Group: Advisor Member #40 Joined: June 9, 2005	Updated with FE 9 results. Opinion based tier list created.
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Eaichu	Nov 29 2006, 12:29 AM Post #3
Leadership Posts: 3,416 Group: Veteran Member #416 Joined: September 5, 2005	I haven't proven much as a debater on here, I don't see why I'm considered elite. CATS is probably the best I've seen yet, and the only one I've actually handled the title off to. I agree with the others selected, for the most part, though. EDIT: Jeez, I sound so rude. Congratulations to everybody too. Very entertaining.



+Ema Skye	Nov 29 2006, 12:31 AM Post #4
Snackoos = <3. It's science! Posts: 20,938 Group: Advisor Member #40 Joined: June 9, 2005	More than just FEFF was considered when it came to you and your brother, Shawn. :x Edit: By the way, the people in the same group are considered so close and have such varying styles that they are just considered equal and there is no real order within the groups.
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Eaichu	Nov 29 2006, 12:37 AM Post #5
Leadership Posts: 3,416 Group: Veteran Member #416 Joined: September 5, 2005	I know. It just feels unfair to the other three who have proven outstanding.



+Ema Skye	Nov 29 2006, 12:46 AM Post #6
Snackoos = <3. It's science! Posts: 20,938 Group: Advisor Member #40 Joined: June 9, 2005	Eaichu Nov 29 2006, 12:37 AM I know. It just feels unfair to the other three who have proven outstanding. Everyone knows how godly you and Leaf are when you're competing for real. Which I expect from you in FE 6. Don't just give me 1st place. The other top contenders/elite debaters have not played the game enough to be big threats to me(though they still could beat me anyways). You, however, made the fucking translation patches.
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Eaichu	Nov 29 2006, 12:52 AM Post #7
Leadership Posts: 3,416 Group: Veteran Member #416 Joined: September 5, 2005	Seth Nov 29 2006, 05:46 AM Don't just give me 1st place. The other top contenders/elite debaters have not played the game enough to be big threats to me(though they still could beat me anyways). It's a little hard to say that when you have Percival and you're debating HM >_> But very well, we'll see. I'll give the FE6 one my all. I managed to get a very good character for going far, Mr. Lance. I probably would have ended much sooner had I stuck with Marcus like I originally dared myself.



+Ema Skye	Nov 29 2006, 12:57 AM Post #8
Snackoos = <3. It's science! Posts: 20,938 Group: Advisor Member #40 Joined: June 9, 2005	I think Marcus would have been a better option than Lance, but maybe I'm biased. I just find that Marcus overshadows him too much in the earlygame, and Alan/Treck/Percival win for the rest of the game.
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Eaichu	Nov 29 2006, 01:01 AM Post #9
Leadership Posts: 3,416 Group: Veteran Member #416 Joined: September 5, 2005	Seth Nov 29 2006, 05:57 AM I think Marcus would have been a better option than Lance, but maybe I'm biased. I just find that Marcus overshadows him too much in the earlygame, and Alan/Treck/Percival win for the rest of the game. It isn't the same as Seth FE8 and Marcus FE7. Marcus FE6 is outclassed too early with no chance of making it up whatsoever, his growths are pitiful and while his supports are excellent, it's not why you you would use a stat crippled unit for so long. At around Level 10, Alan and Lance can already match Marcus in the important statistics. Level 10, they'll have no problem reaching that in a few chapters if leveled properly, which will be done during debate. While Marcus can competently be argued for the earlygame, there's actually quite alot to debate for the other characters as well-- because they come to match him much quicker than characters would compare to someone such as Seth or FE7 Marcus. Level 13+ onwards, the other SKs practically crush him.. even Noah. There's little reason to use Marcus from that point on, other than utility support, which can be covered easily from Chapter 7 onwards. Now, I say Chapter 7-- the rest of the chapters are to be considered... how much chance does Marcus have for survival here? He has good supports(A noteworthy point, but how long will they be effective, furthermore, are we wasting support slots with those who support him due to his weakness?) and high movement/rescue ability. Other SKs can compete. It's not worth it. I'd have earlygame points, and nothing else. Even then, the earlygame points can simply be matched with "Marcus is needed simply for utility/softening" while other units are still going to be used.



+Ema Skye	Nov 29 2006, 01:03 AM Post #10
Snackoos = <3. It's science! Posts: 20,938 Group: Advisor Member #40 Joined: June 9, 2005	Yeah, but I love Marcus.
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Eaichu	Nov 29 2006, 01:05 AM Post #11
Leadership Posts: 3,416 Group: Veteran Member #416 Joined: September 5, 2005	Who doesn't. There's just not enough running for him in FE6. God yes, he makes HM ranked play much easier in early chapters.. He does some shit other units can't. But then you have the whole fact he can't do what everyone else can for the midgame. And it kills him. You can't support him because you waste slot, and all other SKs can match him at that point(Assuming we're past Chapter 7)... well, except maybe Treck by a LITTLE bit, but why use Marcus over Treck if you want to level units by that time? Marcus will inevitably leech by soaking units for others to kill... He has a little bit of a spot in Chapters 8 & 9, but then he definitely gets rotated out. That's why it's like shooting yourself in the foot. You can debate what he does well, which is apparent, but that's all that's there.



Simon	Nov 29 2006, 05:55 PM Post #12
The strongest among you may not wear a crown Posts: 3,318 Group: Veteran Member #885 Joined: August 19, 2006	Quote: List created by Inui, Merk, and CATS. Who also all happen to be in the Elite Tier. >_> Don't get me wrong - y'all deserve the spots - but I found it kinda funny to read that after double-checking the Elite Tier.
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C475_1337	Nov 29 2006, 06:05 PM Post #13
One serious d00d Posts: 1,863 Group: FEFFer Member #902 Joined: August 26, 2006	Well, I was PM'd yesterday with an exact copy of the current list, and asked if I agreed with it. I only had 2 or 3 comments, none of which I felt strongly about, so nothing changed. Take that as you will.
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Simon	Nov 29 2006, 06:17 PM Post #14
The strongest among you may not wear a crown Posts: 3,318 Group: Veteran Member #885 Joined: August 19, 2006	Yeah, but...it's still ironic. >_>
	Wirt I conquered the world with nothing but diarrhea and depression. Previously: Ron DeLite, Simon Reaver for the lulz Fraulein Holls Sep 14 2008, 06:16 PM Some Kind Of Monster - Metallica >> Metallica wub all of a sudden ~~Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.~~ God of Thunder - KISS rofl Chris Chris says: you know what Chris says: someone Chris says: once said to be Chris says: me* Chris says: when someone did Chris says: d(-_-)b Chris says: wtf, how'd they invert the b?


Merk	Nov 30 2006, 08:08 AM Post #15
ザワザワ Posts: 1,943 Group: Veteran Member #508 Joined: November 29, 2005	Disclaimer: The opinion-based tier list does not necessarily reflect the individual opinion of each debater who created it.
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