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Wait...Oswin not banned? Hmm...


? If Oswin were banned, Lowen would need to be. Mobility + even better defenses lategame + better offense vs. earlygame utility.
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Lowen's not banned. His offense weakness is too easy to pick on. Oswin's banned, though.
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Lowen's not banned. His offense weakness is too easy to pick on. Oswin's banned, though.


And Oswin has no offensive weakness? Oswin has more Atk before supports, but Lowen has more Speed, and the difference is such that Speed actually matters. The difference between Lowen and Oswin is very minute at best. I'd favor Lowen, in fact.
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I'd rather unban Oswin than ban Lowen too. Lowen is not hard to beat. Sentenal almost beat Merk's Lowen using just average old Heath.
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wtf Lowen better defenses than Oswin? How would that ever happen? Also, did you forget that Oswin starts 8 levels higher and is likely the first unit to promote?

I agree with the current setup, keep Oswin b7 and Lowen available.

That said, I'll take Kent.
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wtf Lowen better defenses than Oswin? How would that ever happen? Also, did you forget that Oswin starts 8 levels higher and is likely the first unit to promote?


Lategame. Lowen's defensive parameters > Oswin's. The level lead is why it's even a contest (earlygame utility and keeping up later).
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Uh, Oswin gets more Def/Res from supports and has more natural Def/Res by a lot already anyways...
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Lategame.


20/10 Oswin w/ A Dorcas, B Hector: 50 Hp/29 Def/15 Res/63 Avo
20/10 Lowen w/ A Rebecca, B Eliwood: 49 Hp/21 Def/10 Res/74 Avo

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wtf Lowen better defenses than Oswin? How would that ever happen? Also, did you forget that Oswin starts 8 levels higher and is likely the first unit to promote?


Lategame. Lowen's defensive parameters > Oswin's. The level lead is why it's even a contest (earlygame utility and keeping up later).

Use Lowen if you think he should be banned.
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Uh, Oswin gets more Def/Res from supports and has more natural Def/Res by a lot already anyways...


Lowen's Avoid lead matters far more than Oswin's Res lead will ever matter. Yeah, Oswin's got more Def, but Lowen has more Avoid, and I don't see Oswin getting full supports all the time either (granted, views on Rebecca vary, so there's room for argument, but I just don't see the difference between Oswin and Lowen ever being enough to merit one being banned and the other not).
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Dude, CATS posted the numbers without even giving Oswin a level lead and Oswin wins.
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Why would Lowen's Avo matter more? Surely it's not making him more durable against physical enemies seeing as how Oswin has a Def lead almost as big as Lowen's Avo lead. And against everything else, which is limited to magic, Oswin's Res lead most definitely does matter. How is Lowen's defense better lategame? I really phail to see this.
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20/10 Oswin w/ A Dorcas, B Hector: 50 Hp/29 Def/15 Res/63 Avo
20/10 Lowen w/ A Rebecca, B Eliwood: 49 Hp/21 Def/10 Res/74 Avo

wtf are you talking about?


Dorcas and Hector? Hector has other options and Dorcas is mediocre (I know I'm gonna hear "Rebecca phails" from someone, but I would contest that she is fairly good).
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