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| Topic Started: Jul 23 2007, 12:17 PM (341 Views) | |
| +Ema Skye | Jul 23 2007, 12:17 PM Post #1 |
Snackoos = <3. It's science!
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| Sentenal | Jul 25 2007, 10:31 PM Post #2 |
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
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Cath vs Douglas Cath sucks. She starts with like 19~ (18.7) HP, and 2~ (2.3) DEF. Something only needs 21 Atk to kill her in one hit, which is about everything when you get her. Douglas is unable to die, unless you feed him to a pack of Wyvern Lords or something. 20 base DEF, 46 HP, axes and lances. Douglas can walk into an army of Myrmidons, Swordmasters, Nomads, and Nomad Troopers, and not die. So, Douglas could pick up Roy, and walk casually through chapter 18, having both units being completely safe. He is a tank. Cath hardly even has thief utility. She can't thief unless someone (Like Douglas) and escorts her to a chest, so she doesn't die on the way there. Then, you already have 2 superior thieves, who don't die in one hit, Chad and Astol. A 3rd thief is un-nessisary, and pointless. If History has taught me anything, its the side with the most tanks wins. And the side with the most fighting rapable girls loses. |
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| Kamaitachi | Jul 29 2007, 02:45 AM Post #3 |
Classy
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Right. Because there's no such thing as evasion.
Bullshit.
Which very well might happen. Not to mention magic users in any of their forms.
Is that all he is? Some beautiful, violent urge? [quote\Douglas can walk into an army of Myrmidons, Swordmasters, Nomads, and Nomad Troopers, and not die.
Remember, enemies already have more than 21 attack at this point in the game. They had 21 attack when Cath joined. Even with his defense and hp, it's going to be worn away. He's going to be doubled a million times because he's holding Roy, his accuracy will plummet and he'll end up very, very dead. You're supposed to be one of the highest tier debaters here at FEF, and yet all you can do is spout bullshit at me.
She's going to max speed fairly quickly. Level her up, and you'll note that between her luck and her speed, then her supports, she's going to rarely ever see a hit. And even her defenses will be enough to keep her from getting killed.
She can thief just fine. You're going to pass chests on the way to the end of the stage, and you can just have her stop off and pick them up. If you're reaching for an outlying one, then you'll need an escort or two. Luckily, Cath happens to have support partners for that, so they all survive.
I will not argue against Chad. Astol, however, is not as good as Cath. Asthol may have higher defenses than the other thieves...but thieves aren't meant to have buff defenses. Asthol's supports are all in stiff competition, especially, for instance, Lilina. The other thing I'd like to point out is that with his speed growth severely lacking compared to Chad and Cath, they'll have long maxed speed before him, especially Chad, and Cath is just much prettier than him anyways. Since stealing relies on speed, you're going to want these kids with the higher speed growth than him. Asthol has more survivability, but a thief's job is to steal and to open chests/doors. All three can open chests and doors, but Cath and Chad's higher speeds will allow them work their stealing magic. Also, as a result of his lower luck and lower speed, he'll have lower evasion than the other two, and thus will be getting hit more often than them. His HP and defense lead will mean nothing if he's hit more than his two counterparts. So no. I'll not have Asthol running around. I'll have Chad and Cass, thank you very much.
You're such an american, and yet you've forgotten all about Montgomery vs Rommel? North African campaign of WWII? The Allied General, Montgomery was far outgunned by the German General, Rommel. Yet Montgomery still managed to drive Rommel and the germans out of Africa. Now, most Americans don't like Montgomery, because he's a brit. He wouldn't have won without american support, though. History has taught you shit, evidently. |
   
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| Sentenal | Jul 29 2007, 10:28 PM Post #4 |
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When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
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Okay... She has 37.2 base avoid when you get her. Pathetic, seeing as your generic Steel Lance Cavalier of the time have 80 accuracy, then WTA, so would have 52.8 hit on her. And OHKOs her.
Funny thing, you bringing up magic users. Douglas has a base of 46 HP, and 5 RES. Cath at 20/- has 30.7 HP and 5.2 RES. Douglas is very very durable, and immortal compared to "I'm too weak to level" Cath.
Nomads: 18 Atk Nomad Troopers: 21 Atk Myrmidons: 20 Atk after WTD Swordmasters: 22 Atk after WTD By chapter 18, if used, Douglas would be like 20/10ish. 20.6 DEF. So, nomads can double Douglas all day. Nomad troopers can double Douglas all day. Myrmidons can double Douglas all day. Swordmasters can double him all day. Wyverns are really the only enemy that can harm Douglas. So, tell me how the VAST majority of units in Sacae clinking Douglas is bullshit, allowing him to safely walk Roy to the throne with little to no danger to himself?
Level her up? How? She has a 50% chance of getting killed everytime she enters combat. And supports? Who?
Why waste time babying Cath like that when I can just have Chad and Astol run off to do it themselves?
Astol comes with the best bases of all the thieves, and decent in combat on the level you get him. Thieves aren't ment to have buff defenses. Yeah, but having defenses sure helps. You point out Astol's low SPD growth, yet don't point out his 15 SPD base. And his growth is a solid 50%. Astol and Chad both would probably be 20/- by the time you recruit Cath. So lets do some comparisions: 20/- Astol: HP: 34 STR: 10.5 SKL: 12 SPD: 19.4 DEF: 9 RES: 5 LUK: 12.5 5/- Cath: HP: 18.7 STR: 3.3 SKL: 9.7 SPD: 13.4 DEF: 2.3 RES: 2.2 LUK: 10.4 Astol can survive. Cath cannot. Astol looks to be like a pretty solid thief, with decent avoid, and plenty buff enough to survive being attacked. Unlike another little girl who you have to talk to 3 times to recruit.
A History fight, eh? The Allied Forces had MANY more tanks than the Axis did in WW2. In induvisual battles, sure, the Germans had more than the Brits in Africa. However, look at the Eastern Front. Battle of Kursk, for example, 3600 Russian tanks against the German's 2700 tanks. And guess who won? WW2 was practically won on the Eastern Front, and the Commi bastards sure proved why having more tanks is win. On a whole, the Allied forces had more Tanks than the Germans, and won the war. If the Soviet Union, a member of the Allied powers, had more tanks than the Germans alone, and them combined with American and British tanks, Allies had alot more tanks. Anyways, Axis forces were driven out of Africa due to Italians sucking, and getting Pincered. And you didn't address my point about rapable little girls. |
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