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| New Tournament Idea; Something to think about. | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 13 2007, 05:35 PM (762 Views) | |
| Yzarc | Sep 13 2007, 05:35 PM Post #1 |
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Each debater picks a team of 8 units and debates using them, instead of just picking one unit. I think this will capture the essence of Fire Emblem more than just debating one unit because you don't just USE one unit in the game. So here, you debate a team. Now, obviously, we'd have to allow overlapping units. It'd be unfair for one person to be like "Titania, Oscar, Kieran, Ike, Boyd, blah blah blah" so multiple people can get the same units and, at the same time, there will be a tier cap. Meaning... Top Tier: 2 High Tier: 3 Upper Mid Tier: 3 Lower Mid Tier: 2 Low and Bottom Tier: 1 You must have this many from each tier. You can pick whichever units you want from the tiers. The debate will be using these units as center characters, your main ones, and on chapters where one of your characters is not available, you may use a different one for filler. (If you don't pick Oscar as on your team, you can still say that you use him for the first few chapters. However, once a chosen unit is on your team, you may not replace him or her. Also, the replacement unit must be from the same tier as the replaced unit.) -Top- Titania Jill Kieran Oscar Boyd Reyson -High- Ike Soren Makalov Marcia Mist Astrid Tanith Brom Muarim Nephenee -Upper Mid- Zihark Stefan Geoffrey Mordecai Tormod Ilyana Volke Tauroneo Rhys -Lower Mid- Calill Largo Ranulf Haar Gatrie Sothe Devdan Nasir Lethe Ena -Low and Bottom- Mia Ulki Rolf Janaff Shinon Elincia Lucia Bastian Tell me what you guys think. Consider this a sign up topic as well. If we can get enough people in on this, I think it would be awesome. EDIT: Also, if you don't choose Ike, that means that once you get your two chosen High Tiers on your team, Ike is b7 from combat. He must either be rescued or stay in the back but you can't put him in a position to take counters and you certainly can't have him attack. Obviously, it's a disadvantage to not pick Ike, but if you REALLY want to use different High Tiers... EDIT2: Changed the amount of units. |
  
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| +Reaver | Sep 13 2007, 06:27 PM Post #2 |
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Having done this at FESS once: I would make four slots for filler units which exclude God Tier characters and I would also consider making Ike an automatic granted unit that all sides to avoid Seize and Black Knight GGNORE arguments. So basically any debater can take four fillers and then be done. |
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| Reikken | Sep 13 2007, 06:43 PM Post #3 |
 
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 This makes supports teh hard Uh... Titania, Boyd, Mist, Tanith, Mordecai, Tauroneo, Sothe, Ulki |
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| Yzarc | Sep 13 2007, 07:26 PM Post #4 |
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If Ike isn't more useful than Titania on the Tier List than it's not necessary to use him since, hell, it's not necessary to use Titania.
I want to hear more opinions about using more than 8 characters on the team. Maybe I should increase Upper Mid to three units and Lower Mid to two units? |
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| +Ema Skye | Sep 13 2007, 09:18 PM Post #5 |
Snackoos = <3. It's science!
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I like it. I don't know if we can run it any time soon, but it sounds doable. I'd make Ike a default unit, however. |
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| Nick | Sep 14 2007, 02:15 AM Post #6 |
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Am I allowed to take only 1 top tier unit in exchange for taking 3 high tier units? |
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| Yzarc | Sep 14 2007, 08:12 AM Post #7 |
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Um. Sure? I guess you can sacrifice one unit of a higher tier for an extra of a lower tier. |
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| Nick | Sep 14 2007, 08:37 AM Post #8 |
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kthx In the end, I didn't actually use that idea to form my team of most awesome win
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| Sentenal | Sep 14 2007, 06:11 PM Post #9 |
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
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It sounds epic. Both good and bad. Maybe if we do this, since debates will obviously be much longer (16 total units being argued will take more time than 2), maybe the number of posts per person should be reduced? |
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| +Ema Skye | Sep 14 2007, 06:20 PM Post #10 |
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Less than 3?
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| Yzarc | Sep 14 2007, 06:22 PM Post #11 |
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Eh, I don't think so, Sent. The reason is, you're not focusing so much on individual units anymore. Not only will a few of your units and your opponent's units be the same, but it doesn't matter if one of your characters is godly. You're debating for the team as a whole, so it's more like debating strategy rather than just debating stats. This tourney will likely not focus nearly as heavily on stats. |
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| Sentenal | Sep 14 2007, 06:23 PM Post #12 |
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Can you imagine how big posts would be, when you are debating 16 total characters? In 1v1 debates, it is simple. Your character, against his. But in this, you have 8 characters, against his 8 characters, in any number of combinations. Like, isn't that 64 possible different character cominbations? |
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| Barst | Sep 14 2007, 06:26 PM Post #13 |
Like I said before... I am perfect.
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It's about comparing the team as a whole, though. Not each individual character. My opinion, personally, is that this kind of tournament might be better with more like 5 posts. |
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| Reikken | Sep 14 2007, 06:29 PM Post #14 |
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wtf, no You're not going to be comparing each character to every other. Read Yzarc's post. |
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| Yzarc | Sep 14 2007, 11:16 PM Post #15 |
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Okay, so, unless there are any objections, here are the new rules. No more than 2 Top No more than 5 High or Top (Ike must be included) No more than 8 Upper Mid or higher No more than 10 Lower Mid or higher At least one from Low or Bottom If your chosen character is not available until later on, you may pick a different unit of the same or lower tier to replace the chosen unit until said chosen unit joins the team. (Example: I can choose Titania and Reyson as my Top Tiers, but am allowed to use Boyd until Reyson shows up. Once Reyson shows up, however, Boyd can't be on the team.) Also, you may use more than two top tiers in the very beginning of the game. So, let's say you choose Titania and Boyd. You ARE allowed to use Titania, Boyd and Oscar on the first few chapters. I suppose the cutoff could be through chapter 8. That means your team basically doesn't matter through chapter 8 because you're pretty much all using the same units, with a few possible exceptions. Once you hit chapter 9, though, tier limits kick in. Also, since you HAVE to use one Low or Bottom tier, everyone basically has to use Mia until Rolf shows up, then they have that choice. Then waay later on, you can switch for either Ulki or Janaff and add the rest to the potential list as they come. The rest of the tiers you CAN, if you so choose, leave a slot open. |
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