A tier list up for discussion

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A tier list up for discussion; take #23782 at giving life to this board
Topic Started: Oct 22 2007, 04:43 PM (7,894 Views)
Tiaro	May 20 2009, 05:32 PM Post #286
Posts: 9,958 Group: Veteran Member #603 Joined: February 2, 2006	I think the general consensus was Archers suck. She also dies easy and requires a lot of babying, that hurts her a lot. Eliwood doesn't need that as much.
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Tino	May 20 2009, 05:36 PM Post #287
Posts: 158 Group: FEFFer Member #1,594 Joined: December 17, 2007	Quote: her growths are somewhat random at times roflcoptor Also, necroposts ftl. And yeah, bad durability until after higher levelled supports start kicking in, in combination with being locked to 2 range (which brings various obvious disadvantages along) and being arguably the worst earlygame unit.



Kitty	May 20 2009, 05:42 PM Post #288
Is such a trend setter :D Posts: 1,693 Group: Judge Member #2,260 Joined: May 13, 2009	Tino May 20 2009, 05:36 PM Also, necroposts ftl. At this point, someone needs to necropost in order to have some people talking.
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*Sentenal*	May 20 2009, 07:35 PM Post #289
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat. Posts: 15,632 Group: FEFF Emperor Member #1 Joined: May 16, 2005	Bows suck, thats why Rebecca is bad. Basically, since she can only use bows, she can only be used on the player phase. On enemy phases, no counter attack (therefore no killing). I remember Solide used to masturbate to Rebecca, but even he would admit her class is pretty terrible.



A2ZOMG	May 20 2009, 09:13 PM Post #290
Posts: 41 Group: FEFFer Member #2,262 Joined: May 18, 2009	I'm confused, what tier list are we discussing? Isn't Reikken's essentially the official tier list? -Top- Matthew Ninian/Nils Guy Raven -High- Serra Priscilla Lowen Kent Erk Sain Marcus Oswin Pent Hector Harken Eliwood -Upper Mid- Geitz Legault Rebecca Lucius Florina Fiora Heath Dart -Lower Mid- Dorcas Isadora Lyn Vaida Hawkeye Jaffar Canas Rath -Low- Bartre Louise Farina Renault Karel Wil Nino -Bottom- Wallace Karla I was thinking that Dorcas could be upper mid, because he pwns earlygame (which is imo the hardest part of the game), supports Osw1n and Geitz who are both w1n and want Dorcas's support a lot. Because of these hax supports, Dorcas gets great evade and beastly attack. He's one of your best units by far at killing them Wyverns that lose any speed, armors, Heros (swordreaver ftw), and he oneshots anything that is wussy, like magic users. And because of his massive str and use of axes, he generally is really good at being cheap to use. And he onerounds liek almost everything with a Brave Axe. IMO he's better than Dart, who actually sucks when he joins, and costs a lot more due to Ocean Seal...plus Rebbecca is a more iffy character to field than Osw1n. Edited by A2ZOMG, May 20 2009, 09:16 PM.



Tino	May 21 2009, 01:28 PM Post #291
Posts: 158 Group: FEFFer Member #1,594 Joined: December 17, 2007	Quote: At this point, someone needs to necropost in order to have some people talking. Possibly. But then it would have to be a productive and contributing post. Asking why Rebecca is so low when it's absolutely obvious is both un-productive and arguably stupid. We also don't want to have to explain why Knoll fails all the time. And that reminds me that this post is so far also very unproductive and completely off-topic. So yeah, Dorcas to upper mid. I would even argue him to high tier due to still being able to double later on due to enemies weighing themselves down with way too heavy steel weapons and them having fail spd in general. And that allows him to have very massive offense. His supports also add to pretty great crit for things he doesn't double and good avo to make up for his lackluster def. and he supports bartre which is win bcuz 2 manly mens togetar is ma'facking win



Kitty	May 21 2009, 07:24 PM Post #292
Is such a trend setter :D Posts: 1,693 Group: Judge Member #2,260 Joined: May 13, 2009	okey im sorry for bringing this up i was just curious.
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Tiaro	May 21 2009, 08:01 PM Post #293
Posts: 9,958 Group: Veteran Member #603 Joined: February 2, 2006	No worries, dearie.
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Lukss	Jul 4 2009, 06:51 PM Post #294
Posts: 1 Group: FEFFer Member #2,283 Joined: July 4, 2009	Hi! i�m a noob who don�t talk english very good(sorry about that), but i have only one question, can you explain me WHY marcus is so high? Before i read "Because he helps in hard hector mode" I win hard hector mode with A rank(yes, because i enjoy the game and i don�t try to be perfect and I use dart, i think that saying "NO" to dart only because the promotion item...why you buy/download the game then?), and i don�even touched marcus. He is pathetic, and one of the worst jeigans. He is only surpassed be himself xDDD(i�m talking about his older version) Sorry about my english, I will best it xD



A2ZOMG	Jul 5 2009, 03:38 AM Post #295
Posts: 41 Group: FEFFer Member #2,262 Joined: May 18, 2009	This FE is such a joke with enemies that have fail spd that Marcus DAs enemies right until the final chapter. Meaning he owns stuff forever. And he has other advantages like good supports and high move and pwnage weapon levels. By far, he's one of the most awesome Jeigans that exists. Your other units can always risk getting RNG screwed, but Marcus pretty much never gets screwed, since his bases are quite enough to make him pwn enemies right up to the end. As for Dart, the reason why he sucks isn't just because of his expensive promotion. It's because his join situation is absolutely terrible. His hit is horrible making him very prone to missing a lot of enemies when he joins, and his starting spd isn't very good and also hindered by his low con. Anyhow that list must be really outdated. Because the most useful unit should be like Serra (if Matthew and Ninian/Nils are excluded). And before you tell me otherwise, keep in mind that in a normal LHM playthrough, she can get to level 9. And she's the only healer until Priscilla comes by, and is overall superior to Priscilla by virtue of her better durability. Anyhow here is Reikken's most recent tier list. -Top- Matthew Serra Ninian/Nils -High- Raven Guy Priscilla Lowen Erk Sain Kent Marcus Oswin Pent Hector Eliwood -Upper Mid- Florina Harken Lucius Geitz Rebecca Legault Fiora Lyn Dorcas -Lower Mid- Isadora Heath Vaida Hawkeye Jaffar Dart Canas Rath -Low- Bartre Louise Farina Renault Karel Wil Nino -Bottom- Wallace Karla Edited by A2ZOMG, Jul 5 2009, 03:50 AM.



AdamNW	Jul 6 2009, 09:05 PM Post #296
Needs moar Sety Posts: 1,556 Group: FEFFer Member #869 Joined: August 7, 2006	I would put switch Lyn and Rebecca but it's a pretty good list otherwise.
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A2ZOMG	Jul 10 2009, 01:20 PM Post #297
Posts: 41 Group: FEFFer Member #2,262 Joined: May 18, 2009	Well Rebbecca has a pretty significant durability lead over Lyn. And by significant, I mean WHOAMYGODMASSIVE. Well, not so much earlygame, but midgame she's beating Lyn massively in durability with her way better supports and not having WTD against the most common weapon type.



AdamNW	Jul 12 2009, 03:28 PM Post #298
Needs moar Sety Posts: 1,556 Group: FEFFer Member #869 Joined: August 7, 2006	I haven't played the game in god knows how long, but Lyn's avoid is so high it's irrelevant from what I can remember. She also get bows, so it's not like she always has WTD.
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A2ZOMG	Jul 13 2009, 05:42 PM Post #299
Posts: 41 Group: FEFFer Member #2,262 Joined: May 18, 2009	Lyn's evade is only good against axe users. Her supports all fail, and because she's super frail, and stuck to swords until you get the 2nd Heaven's Seal (Eliwood gets the first), enemies have at least 60 hitrates on her with lances or swords. She dies in 2 hits easily, and always takes counters except against archers. Rebbecca in most practical scenarios should have at least 20 more evade in almost all situations due to having w1n supports and not being stuck to swords, and then she also promotes earlier meaning she'll have a level lead pretty soon. Edited by A2ZOMG, Jul 13 2009, 05:42 PM.



AdamNW	Jul 15 2009, 03:33 PM Post #300
Needs moar Sety Posts: 1,556 Group: FEFFer Member #869 Joined: August 7, 2006	Fair enough. I haven't even tried a true rank run yet. Edited by AdamNW, Jul 15 2009, 03:34 PM.
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