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Falcoknights; Florina vs Fiora vs Farina
Topic Started: Jan 12 2008, 03:15 PM (949 Views)
*Crysta*	Jan 13 2008, 10:11 PM Post #16
i ate your children Posts: 10,534 Group: FEFF Emperor Member #443 Joined: October 8, 2005	Considering how late she comes in, I'd say no even with the reduced funds. Her stats themselves are okay, I guess.
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Tiaro	Jan 13 2008, 10:46 PM Post #17
Posts: 9,856 Group: Veteran Member #603 Joined: February 2, 2006	She really isn't worth the 20k. If Florina isn't RNG raped she should have around the same to better stats all around. The only thing good about her is the ability to use the Triangle attack, and that she's RNG proof somewhat, but even so, she's still pretty fragile. Florina > Farina > Fiora statwise. Include the payment and it's Florina > Fiora > Farina, IMO.
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Blackbird	Jan 13 2008, 11:51 PM Post #18
Posts: 181 Group: FEFFer Member #1,584 Joined: December 10, 2007	Florina: HP 60%, Str 40%, Ski 50%, Spd 55%, Luk 50%, Def 15%, Res 35% Fiora: HP 70%, Str 35%, Ski 60%, Spd 50%, Luk 30%, Def 20%, Res 50% Farina: HP 75%, Str 50%, Ski 40%, Spd 45%, Luk 45%, Def 25%, Res 30% Florina is the best dodger, with the highest luck and speed. Her offense is pretty good with a decent strength score. Fiora trades a bit of speed, luck, and strength for more skill, defense, and some pretty solid resistance. More defensively oriented than Florina. Farina has really solid strength and decent defense for a peggie. Combined with her bases, she plays almost like a Wyvern, in some ways.



Mekkah	Jan 14 2008, 05:07 AM Post #19
Posts: 667 Group: FEFFer Member #1,400 Joined: July 24, 2007	Averages over just growths please, the method you just used would tell us Nino > Erk > Pent. I believe that stage has been passed. In an unranked run, you have little reason not to recruit Farina since you have gold coming out of your ears if you don't mind selling stuff/using the arena. Her bases are pretty immense for her level, she gains EXP rather quickly, she has a somewhat exclusive EXP pool (Monks in Crazed Beast which only your other fliers can reach) and her growths only add to the fun. In a ranked run though, Farina is too restrictive. She's about as expensive as Dart except for the part where she hasn't been using weapons ever since Ch19. Using either of these hurts your ability to use the really expensive stuff you have (stat boosters, Heaven Seals, Prf weapons, cool staves, Brave weapons). So she's kinda more hurtin than helpin there.



Yami92286	Jan 16 2008, 01:14 PM Post #20
Posts: 545 Group: FEFFer Member #453 Joined: October 16, 2005	I got a thing for flying units, and in FE7 I use all of them I can. So on Hector's mode, I definitely use all three no matter what(Triangle attack ftw!) But on Eliwood's mode, I usually use both Fiora and Florina, unless one of them truly blows badly. Because in my experience, I find one of them to be better at taking out mages(I don't give this one the shield) and the other is better at taking out everything else(I give this one the shield). But if I have Farina(the best Falcoknight and mounted unit in the game) she gets the shield automatically.



Davidof	Jan 16 2008, 01:48 PM Post #21
Dutchie Posts: 10,047 Group: Veteran Member #1,047 Joined: January 8, 2007	You like flying units but dont mention Heath or Vaida? >_> I r sad nao.
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Fireman	Jan 16 2008, 06:44 PM Post #22
Posts: 61 Group: FEFFer Member #1,614 Joined: December 26, 2007	hmm the reason why I restricted the conversations to falcoknights is because i already use heath almost all the time. I think he's an excellent unit to use in this game (for me he has always maxed str, ski, spd, def and hp). I just gotta figure out which falcoknight can be the best asset in my party...



Tiaro	Jan 16 2008, 08:22 PM Post #23
Posts: 9,856 Group: Veteran Member #603 Joined: February 2, 2006	Yami92286 Jan 16 2008, 02:14 PM But if I have Farina(the best Falcoknight and mounted unit in the game) she gets the shield automatically. Proof?
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Blackbird	Jan 16 2008, 10:57 PM Post #24
Posts: 181 Group: FEFFer Member #1,584 Joined: December 10, 2007	Fireman Jan 16 2008, 11:44 PM hmm the reason why I restricted the conversations to falcoknights is because i already use heath almost all the time. I think he's an excellent unit to use in this game (for me he has always maxed str, ski, spd, def and hp). I just gotta figure out which falcoknight can be the best asset in my party... You must be luckier than I am. Heath always wallows in mediocrity for me =P.



Mekkah	Jan 17 2008, 06:06 AM Post #25
Posts: 667 Group: FEFFer Member #1,400 Joined: July 24, 2007	Heath's problem isn't his final averages, it's his joining time that has a huge impact on his usefulness. None of his supports stand out to be fast enough to make up for only coming around midgame, and they either all have options over him (Kent, Priscilla) or aren't there for enough to be viable supports (Vaida). Then he is also underleveled, and while he has HM bonuses to make up for that, he needs quite a lot of work. Kind of crappy Spd base prevents him from doubling reliably. He doesn't really even have a great niche to aspire to players looking for an excuse to use him: he only averages a little above Farina in Defense.



Fireman	Jan 17 2008, 03:09 PM Post #26
Posts: 61 Group: FEFFer Member #1,614 Joined: December 26, 2007	hmm that's kinda odd I can usually arena abuse him without affecting the tactics too much He ends up one of my best units and usually outplays my falcokngight (maybe that's just how I play) but keeping the topics limited to falcoknights i decided that I will use Florina She's an early commer and has super high speed and luck. With delphi shield she should be able to take out her enemies without a problem... oh yeah and by the way is it a good idea to use all 3 sisters to the final chapter? Does it tend to take up too much space?



Tiaro	Jan 17 2008, 03:17 PM Post #27
Posts: 9,856 Group: Veteran Member #603 Joined: February 2, 2006	Yeah, there's definitely better units to take on Light then Florina, Fiora, and Farina. One is good, but all three is a bit much.
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Blackbird	Jan 17 2008, 04:35 PM Post #28
Posts: 181 Group: FEFFer Member #1,584 Joined: December 10, 2007	Well, you can bring 12 units to the final chapter, and 5 of those are already reserved for lords, etc. leaving 7 free slots. Pick wisely =).



Mekkah	Jan 17 2008, 04:46 PM Post #29
Posts: 667 Group: FEFFer Member #1,400 Joined: July 24, 2007	That leaves you with 4 leftover slots. I think they're capable of handling every single enemy in the final though, except for the Warrior with Brendan (unless the Pegasi you're using for that has Delphi Shield), Uhai (you're either not going to do shit with a Slim Lance or get doubled with a heavier one, and either way you need Delphi Shield to live through one hit to begin with) and the Reed Brothers will pose a decent threat as always. If you want more space kill off Nils in Victory or Death, but beware that one of your characters will disappear in the Battle Preparations menu of Light Prt 1. "I can usually arena abuse him without affecting the tactics too much" Define "too much" because you have no spare time to bring Heath up to acceptable levels unless you do it while everyone else takes care of Four Fanged Offense, and it's not possible in that short timeframe. If you want 5 stars, that is.



Blackbird	Jan 17 2008, 05:26 PM Post #30
Posts: 181 Group: FEFFer Member #1,584 Joined: December 10, 2007	It seems like it would be difficult to get into triangle attack formation on the final chapter, because the bosses emerge from those tiny, cramped cells with no space to manuever in. You'd have to lure them all out to the center before you could use the tri attack.



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