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Brawl Tier List
Topic Started: Apr 20 2008, 10:11 AM (4,791 Views)
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Personal tier list based on all tournament experiences and results I know thus far:

-God Tier-
MetaKnight
Snake

-Top Tier-
Dedede
Marth
Game and Watch
Falco
Toon Link
Diddy Kong
Pit

-High Tier-
Wolf
Fox
Ike
ROB
Zelda
Sheik
Squirtle
Jigglypuff
Lucas
Pikachu
Zero Suit Samus
Kirby
Ness
Ice Climbers
Charizard

-Mid Tier-
Wario
Donkey Kong
Luigi
Bowser
Samus
Mario
Olimar
Link

-Low Tier-
Yoshi
Peach
Lucario
Ivysaur
Sonic

-Bottom Tier-
Captain Falcon
Ganondorf


ROUGH DRAFT, SUBJECT TO CHANGES.

Just thought I'd let you know my opinions and let you discuss a tier list.


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-God Tier-
Meta Knight
Snake

-Top Tier-
Dedede
Marth
Toon Link
Game and Watch
Falco
ROB
Diddy Kong
Ice Climbers
Pit

-High Tier-
Fox
Squirtle
Jigglypuff
Donkey Kong
Wario
Zelda
Pikachu
Kirby
Zero Suit Samus
Luigi
Sheik
Wolf

-Mid Tier-
Charizard
Peach
Ike
Lucas
Bowser
Olimar
Lucario
Mario

-Low Tier-
Yoshi
Link
Samus
Ness
Captain Falcon
Ivysaur

-Bottom Tier-
Sonic
Ganondorf
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Not really about the current list, but is there any reason there isn't another set of tiers for characters in team battles?

And speaking of that, didn't you just say on FEP that Pit was only good in teams, NOT singles?
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Apr 20 2008, 10:18 AM
Not really about the current list, but is there any reason there isn't another set of tiers for characters in team battles?

And speaking of that, didn't you just say on FEP that Pit was only good in teams, NOT singles?

Teams would barely change much. Characters like Pit, Ganondorf, and Jigglypuff would move up slightly. Characters like Marth, Olimar, and Ice Climbers would move down slightly.

I'm just emo about my character's flaws. That's all. Pit's pretty good.
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What's with the Yoshi hate? One of the best aerial controls in the game. Can wall of pain. Not as easily gimped unless on final destination. Comboreffic. No lag on landing unless using dair. Downsmash nerfed but foward and up increased. Fucking does a dance.
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I'd say Peach is Mid Tier myself, but other than that I think it looks good.
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Why count Pokemon trainer as three characters? And on that matter, why is Ivysaur low tier?

Olimar mid tier? I can't see why personally.

Jigglypuff for high tier? I was always under the impression she was one of the game's worst characters.

I'll probably come up with more problems later. D:
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Apr 20 2008, 02:04 PM
Why count Pokemon trainer as three characters? And on that matter, why is Ivysaur low tier?

Olimar mid tier? I can't see why personally.

Jigglypuff for high tier? I was always under the impression she was one of the game's worst characters.

I'll probably come up with more problems later. D:

Jigglypuff is a bigger mindfuck now then she was in melee, there's just no more rest combos now.
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Luigi and Bowser should move one tier up.
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Apr 20 2008, 02:04 PM
Why count Pokemon trainer as three characters? And on that matter, why is Ivysaur low tier?

Olimar mid tier? I can't see why personally.

Jigglypuff for high tier? I was always under the impression she was one of the game's worst characters.

I'll probably come up with more problems later. D:

Jigglypuff is a bigger mindfuck now then she was in melee, there's just no more rest combos now.

The rest move still works, but it is far less effective now.

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Anyways, Peach should go to Mid Tier, as she is very easy to use and that she has the best recovery in the game. Marth should go to High Tier as he has absolutely the worst recovery in the game. Diddy Kong High Tier because he suks and does not have any good combos. And Wario should go to bottom tier as he absolutely has moves that can easily be countered.
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Ness for bottom tier, Yoshi upwards. Olimar up. I dunno, seems about right.
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Apr 20 2008, 08:30 PM
Anyways, Peach should go to Mid Tier, as she is very easy to use and that she has the best recovery in the game. Marth should go to High Tier as he has absolutely the worst recovery in the game. Diddy Kong High Tier because he suks and does not have any good combos. And Wario should go to bottom tier as he absolutely has moves that can easily be countered.

Marth's recovery isn't that bad as he is floaty and his recovery could be changed with DI.
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Hey, Ike's high tier. He's my fav, and I only saw him as middle tier...
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Ike shouldn't be high tier because he has too many counters, namely characters that are speedy. Dudes like Falco, Fox, Toon Link, Metaknight, Marth, Pikachu, Zero Suit Samus, Squirtile, Sheik, and Ice Climbers just fuck him up because they're so much quicker and lighter on their feet. Jiggypuff just fucks with Ike by bouncing around him while he can't even hit due to his speed issues.

Although Aether is a fucking amazing recovery.
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Apr 20 2008, 11:29 PM
Ike shouldn't be high tier because he has too many counters, namely characters that are speedy. Dudes like Falco, Fox, Toon Link, Metaknight, Marth, Pikachu, Zero Suit Samus, Squirtile, Sheik, and Ice Climbers just fuck him up because they're so much quicker and lighter on their feet. Jiggypuff just fucks with Ike by bouncing around him while he can't even hit due to his speed issues.

Although Aether is a fucking amazing recovery.

Ike should stay in high tier because many of the players that can beat him are in the same tier. Other than that, Ike is high tier because he has really big knockback, and has the range to hit. It often depends on if you turtle or go on the offensive.
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Apr 20 2008, 01:04 PM
Why count Pokemon trainer as three characters? And on that matter, why is Ivysaur low tier?

Olimar mid tier? I can't see why personally.

Jigglypuff for high tier? I was always under the impression she was one of the game's worst characters.

Um... Zelda and Sheik always counted seperately. They're totally different. The Pokemon are even more different from each other. Ivysaur sucks. Easy to gimp, lots of sucky moves, and his KO moves are a bitch to hit with.

Olimar is the easiest character in the game to kill and he's totally helpless without Pikmin out. Those two flaws are pretty extreme.

Jigglypuff's zoning is insanely good. As Ben said, she's a good mindfuck.

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Ike shouldn't be high tier because he has too many counters, namely characters that are speedy. Dudes like Falco, Fox, Toon Link, Metaknight, Marth, Pikachu, Zero Suit Samus, Squirtile, Sheik, and Ice Climbers just fuck him up because they're so much quicker and lighter on their feet. Jiggypuff just fucks with Ike by bouncing around him while he can't even hit due to his speed issues.


Ike can kill those guys between 50% and 80% consistently, so who cares? They have to try and gimp him through his super armour up B or take the hit from his crazy fast forward B to gimp him since he's so heavy. If Ike didn't have that jab of his, then yes, he'd suck against anything fast, but he doesn't. His problem is getting camped.

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Ness for bottom tier.


Nope. Kashif's Ness proves that totally wrong. Ness can pressure people really well with his B moves, including forcing air dodges with his PK Flash. His aerial game is superb. He can damage quickly by trapping you in PK Fire and then running up and grabbing you. His bat and back air are really strong for killing. Ness's only real problem is his gimpable recovery, but now PK Thunder is so strong that it can KO realiably, so it balances out.

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Anyways, Peach should go to Mid Tier, as she is very easy to use and that she has the best recovery in the game. Marth should go to High Tier as he has absolutely the worst recovery in the game. Diddy Kong High Tier because he suks and does not have any good combos. And Wario should go to bottom tier as he absolutely has moves that can easily be countered.


Peach is awful. Her KO power and damage output dropped dramatically, and her recovery is actually abysmal now that her second jump does nothing and her up B has massive lag upon landing with it. She has range issues. Just...she's terrible.

Marth's recovery is amazing. I have no idea what you're talking about. His up B got larger, faster, and stronger. The tether characters and characters like Ganondorf have shitty recoveries, not Marth.

Diddy Kong is one of the best in the game for combos. Have you even played this game before? He's top tier for sure. He is a peer with MetaKnight and Game and Watch when it comes to h4x offense and combos. His only issue is his risky recovery.

Wario has a nearly unpunishable aerial game that's super fast. He's heavy and has lots of KO power. He just has range issues and a bad recovery...oh wait, no he doesn't, because his bike gives him another jump.
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