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| Topic Started: Jun 1 2008, 10:24 PM (300 Views) | |
| Hospitality | Jun 1 2008, 10:24 PM Post #1 |
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Yeah I know, topic in a dead forum. Anyways, it seems that we are heading towards the oil peak. While this name may be misleading, we still have plenty of oil, the problem is now reaching and distribution. Oil has slowed, causing prices to rise. While its still possible to get oil, it's much more costly to do so and for less payout. This brings up the question, what exactly would you do as a world leader in this state. Note, oil whoring countries will tend to not go with your plans. I'm just curious, because this shit does scare me to an extreme point. |
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| +Punishment Divine | Jun 1 2008, 11:13 PM Post #2 |
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The actual prices of oil have been even for a while now. However, what I believe is the [main] cause AND effect of our current economic state, prices at the pump are up. There is a petition somewhere to start drilling for oil here, which there is oil in our territory, but for some reason everyone is against it. I recommend everyone sign it. As much as I would like to stop using oil, like many people propose, it is in our current state, impossible. If we manage to lower our gas prices now, it will help the economy, and we can be stable until new technology actually, y'know, comes. |
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| Sentenal | Jun 1 2008, 11:35 PM Post #3 |
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Its a pretty big problem. As I see it, the main problem with Oil is the huge demand increase due to China industrializing like it has, causing less Oil to go around. Really, the we have to try to get on another energy source. A temporary solution would be drilling for our own Oil in Alaska, for example. A radical solution (lol) would be to outright go to war for Oil, as our stated purpose, and bring the Oil Fields of other nations under our direct control. The best solution I think would be start a strong move to Nuclear Power. The majority of Oil use is in Power Plants and things, to my knowledge. Replacing Plants like that with nuclear ones would not only provide the power we need, but at the cost of less Oil. Would also make us more energy independent. This would only really be the first step, as we would need to find some new fuel source for cars down the line. I don't think we are going to start putting nuclear reactors into cars anytime soon, so I got no idea what to do on that front. |
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| Hospitality | Jun 2 2008, 09:30 AM Post #4 |
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Nuclear Fusion in Cars would be awesome, you crash with the power of the sun. Actually, I think Oil is only used in about 15% of our power plants, most of our plants run on coal, which is in plentiful supply (200 years). The main problem is a fuel source for cars, Boats, airplanes ect. These all are the keys to industry as they move the product and sometimes create it (farms). The problem is, everyone is pushing for biofuel. Not only does this lessen the food output and raise prices on food (Food riots) but it actually makes global warming worse just to add icing. Hydrogen is improbable now and Solar energy only works south of Mason Dixon. |
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| +Reaver | Jun 2 2008, 03:38 PM Post #5 |
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This. Nuclear energy can be controlled to some extent but we need to make a shift towards other fuel sources, namely nuclear power and in sunnier areas solar power. |
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| Sentenal | Jun 2 2008, 07:26 PM Post #6 |
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But is it even feasible to work for some sort of nuclear power to power cars and such, within the near future at least? |
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| Hospitality | Jun 2 2008, 07:36 PM Post #7 |
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No, Nuclear Power must be controlled. What mechanism could you exactly place in a car when a retarded Northeasterner tries to drive slow in the fast lane only to get rear ended by the I suppose the only feasable solutions for now are Biofuels, but they suck. Hopefully we get to Hydrogen at some point, but for now, no. |
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| Sentenal | Jun 2 2008, 08:04 PM Post #8 |
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I recall hearing something about "Energy cells", or something like that in regards to fuel for cars. What exactly is that? Or am I making up something? |
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| Soja | Jun 2 2008, 11:07 PM Post #9 |
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Power for cities and such is determined by area. For example, most of our power here in the Tennessee Valley is hydroelectric. Not really much concern about running out there. Biofuels are a scam. Sure, if you want to divert all our food into fuel for transportation, go right ahead. But it's going to make feeding ourselves more expensive. See, what they use for bio-diesel right now is a type of corn that is consumed by cattle. You know, our beef and dairy. Demand for this type of corn has driven price of feed up, and the price of the appropriate produce up as well. For vehicles, hydrogen would probably be where to look as far as alternative fuels go. Then there is also some research being done on helium-3 as a possible fuel source. Nuclear power is a good source of immense power, but there are significant costs that come with it. Mainly, maintenance, and dealing with waste. People don't want to drill for oil in Alaska because, heh, it would hurt 'teh animawls ;_;'. We're kind of a childish country, wanting not one or the other but both things. What escapes me is how biofuel, being so niche and in the severest of minorities, could possibly aggravate global warming? |
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| Hospitality | Jun 2 2008, 11:13 PM Post #10 |
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Simple really. Vegetation cleared to plant the crops releases carbon, burining of the plants also release carbon. Biofuels release Carbon into the air when burnt (sometimes moreso than oil) and have to be harvested seasonally, taking out part of the time it needs to suck carbon out of the air. In other words, more Carbon goes into the air wtf. |
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| Soja | Jun 2 2008, 11:23 PM Post #11 |
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breathing releases carbon  hold your breath, you're destroying the earth you insensitive clodI suppose then all this biofuel = green stuff is just bullshit, which would confirm one too many things about these kinds of people. Then again, I've always been against deforestation explicitly. The reasons are varied and numerous. Although I don't see why biofuel crops are any different from food crops in terms of being harvested seasonally. |
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| Hospitality | Jun 2 2008, 11:25 PM Post #12 |
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Well it's not different. It's just Politicians go HURRR DURRR SAVES AIR. Human Breath gets replaced by Oxygen released by plants. Oh geeze. |
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| +Reaver | Jun 3 2008, 05:55 PM Post #13 |
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We don't need to completely get off oil immediately, and by immediately I do mean in the next 10 years, but we do need to reduce the dependency on oil. By introducing cars like hybrids that run on both gas and work off of the car's battery (iirc) we reduce our need for fuel greatly. It also wouldn't hurt to improve public transport while we're at it. |
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| Soja | Jun 3 2008, 10:43 PM Post #14 |
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Hybrid component production creates a lot of highly toxic byproducts. I'm talking nasty, cancer-causing stuff, like nickel cadmium. And the technology is still relatively new, so it's not something most people can afford. If it's not affordable, it won't take off. Public transportation is only a viable solution in large metropolitan areas. For us people that live where there is some breathing space, and in relatively sparsely populated zones, that's not really an option. We have a train that runs to Nashville, but that's about... it. We have no local transport around my town, and the expense probably would outweigh the benefit. I can imagine a bus coming to a stop and picking up one person. Or no one. If only we could have something like Mr. Fusion.
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| Leon | Jun 3 2008, 11:34 PM Post #15 |
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No world leader can do this, but get the previous owners of Oil Companies back from the 90s that were foreigners, and get the already rich corporate businessmen out from Oil business. Exxon-Mobile wasn't making billions in profit ten years ago. I know there are people out there that have designs for ridiculous Gas Mileage cars, but oil companies pay them out to never release their designs. I just can't imagine that no one has developed an incredibly fuel-efficient car out there. I wouldn't be surprised if foreign car mileage blew Americans out of the water. |
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