Debate Tournament: Gauging Interest

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Debate Tournament: Gauging Interest
Topic Started: Jun 8 2008, 02:58 PM (1,219 Views)
Soja	Jun 14 2008, 06:31 AM Post #106
Gentle Water, Crashing Waves Posts: 5,171 Group: Global Moderator Member #451 Joined: October 15, 2005	Option two sounds like the better because reading all the material in every debate to an analytical scale would burn even me out. However, I am still against judges participating.
	Mirar on Sep 8 2007 06:08 PM nigga please Fusion Universe - FEF Fanfic Slayers Forth - Slayers Fanfic Smartest Member '06 & '07 & '08 & 'o9, Favored Debater '07 & '08 & '09, Most Popular '08, Manliest '08 & '09, Author of Nightmares, Scourge of the Luxon, Rules Lawyer, Nick's Former Hero, Crysta's Lover


Super Saiyan SolidSense	Jun 14 2008, 09:06 AM Post #107
Posts: 896 Group: FEFFer Member #1,311 Joined: June 15, 2007	Quote: However, I am still against judges participating. With two panels of alternating judges, I hardly think that bias will play a major factor. Now, if one out of six judges would vote against a single debater simply out of personal interest, there would be a 50% chance that that particular judge would be judging that particular debate, anyway, and even then the other two judges could override him/her. Also, speaking to FE debate, I've never seen someone actually vote against someone else due to wishing/not wishing to face him/her, and I've likewise never seen someone vote against someone else due to having faced that person before in the tournament and lost or somesuch nonsense. Never. I've seen biased voting, but the bias stemmed from other, different sources every single time. Of course, I'm no mind reader, but, usually, a person's reasons were fairly obvious. Plus, three of us have already agreed not to participate regardless. At worst, there will be three instances of judge participation, and likely, there will only be two (not sure if Rin wanted to participate as well). Plus, I trust the current panel, barring Rin and Neo (since I don't know them/haven't seen them post much).
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+Reaver	Jun 14 2008, 09:18 AM Post #108
Troll Posts: 8,611 Group: Advisor Member #47 Joined: June 9, 2005	For Panels I think I like... Panel 1 Reaver Solide Rin Panel 2 Soja Nick Neo Objections?
	Neon,June 8 2005 07:34 PM @Reaver: Me grammer is better than ur post count newbie. HJ, December 30 2008 06:20 PM You gave Inui his first (and last?) sexual experience, didn't you? That's historic. Favorite Staffer Summer 2008 -- Send me a Personal Message


Super Saiyan SolidSense	Jun 14 2008, 11:44 AM Post #109
Posts: 896 Group: FEFFer Member #1,311 Joined: June 15, 2007	Well, judging from what's been said, I would think that something like this would be better: Panel 1 Reaver Solide Soja Panel 2 Rin Nick Neo This way, Panel 1 is composed of opinionated but balanced people - Reaver is more liberal, Soja is more conservative, and I'm almost exactly half and half - whereas Panel 2 features neutral people. Thus, both panels end up politically neutral (as most issues split along party lines). Not that I expect bias to play a major or even a significant part in this, but there is _some_ subconscious bias at play in most cases. Also, I think that in the final rounds (for both brackets and for the tournament as a whole), both panels should get to vote. If the panels fail to agree, a 7th judge should be selected to determine the winner. This way, we ensure that we're as clear as possible as to the winner of this tournament - usually, the #1, #2, and #3 spots are the only ones that are definitive in a double-elimination tournament.
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Nick	Jun 15 2008, 05:31 PM Post #110
Brit Posts: 6,491 Group: Judge Member #659 Joined: March 8, 2006	gently pokes topic Well, that sounds fine to me (Solide's version). All judges for final sounds good too. That done (I hope), are we ready for signups?
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+Ema Skye	Jun 15 2008, 05:34 PM Post #111
Snackoos = <3. It's science! Posts: 20,952 Group: Advisor Member #40 Joined: June 9, 2005	Someone as apathetic as Neo and as silly as Rin for judges seems a bit off, but okay.
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Nick	Jun 15 2008, 05:38 PM Post #112
Brit Posts: 6,491 Group: Judge Member #659 Joined: March 8, 2006	Inui Jun 15 2008, 10:34 PM Someone as apathetic as Neo and as silly as Rin for judges seems a bit off, but okay. Why would apathy be a negative quality in a judge? The fact that someone is 'on the fence' doesn't imply that they're incapable of judging objectively, I believe.
	jesus somebody get onto msn


+Reaver	Jun 15 2008, 06:08 PM Post #113
Troll Posts: 8,611 Group: Advisor Member #47 Joined: June 9, 2005	K, so those are the committees. I'm going to start signups now, and hopefully I'll get a password protected judges area so that we can discuss the next topics and whatnot.
	Neon,June 8 2005 07:34 PM @Reaver: Me grammer is better than ur post count newbie. HJ, December 30 2008 06:20 PM You gave Inui his first (and last?) sexual experience, didn't you? That's historic. Favorite Staffer Summer 2008 -- Send me a Personal Message


+Ema Skye	Jun 15 2008, 06:31 PM Post #114
Snackoos = <3. It's science! Posts: 20,952 Group: Advisor Member #40 Joined: June 9, 2005	Mirar Jun 15 2008, 05:38 PM Inui Jun 15 2008, 10:34 PM Someone as apathetic as Neo and as silly as Rin for judges seems a bit off, but okay. Why would apathy be a negative quality in a judge? The fact that someone is 'on the fence' doesn't imply that they're incapable of judging objectively, I believe. Won't care to actually read thoroughly. Might just not judge at all.
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Nick	Jun 15 2008, 06:34 PM Post #115
Brit Posts: 6,491 Group: Judge Member #659 Joined: March 8, 2006	XD I trust that as he's offered to judge, he doesn't extend apathy to this tournament.
	jesus somebody get onto msn


+Reaver	Jun 15 2008, 07:04 PM Post #116
Troll Posts: 8,611 Group: Advisor Member #47 Joined: June 9, 2005	Inui Jun 15 2008, 07:31 PM Won't care to actually read thoroughly. Might just not judge at all. Apathy towards issues =/= apathy towards judging.
	Neon,June 8 2005 07:34 PM @Reaver: Me grammer is better than ur post count newbie. HJ, December 30 2008 06:20 PM You gave Inui his first (and last?) sexual experience, didn't you? That's historic. Favorite Staffer Summer 2008 -- Send me a Personal Message


+Ema Skye	Jun 15 2008, 07:12 PM Post #117
Snackoos = <3. It's science! Posts: 20,952 Group: Advisor Member #40 Joined: June 9, 2005	Reaver Jun 15 2008, 07:04 PM Inui Jun 15 2008, 07:31 PM Won't care to actually read thoroughly. Might just not judge at all. Apathy towards issues =/= apathy towards judging. Apathy towards almost everything. Neo is an apathetic person. He's a friend and all, but I'm not going to deny it.
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+Reaver	Jun 15 2008, 07:18 PM Post #118
Troll Posts: 8,611 Group: Advisor Member #47 Joined: June 9, 2005	Inui Jun 15 2008, 08:12 PM almost Well, let's hope this is one of those things.
	Neon,June 8 2005 07:34 PM @Reaver: Me grammer is better than ur post count newbie. HJ, December 30 2008 06:20 PM You gave Inui his first (and last?) sexual experience, didn't you? That's historic. Favorite Staffer Summer 2008 -- Send me a Personal Message


Hospitality	Jun 15 2008, 07:27 PM Post #119
My rooming is horrible. Posts: 4,885 Group: Veteran Member #17 Joined: June 8, 2005	Inui Jun 15 2008, 08:12 PM Reaver Jun 15 2008, 07:04 PM Inui Jun 15 2008, 07:31 PM Won't care to actually read thoroughly. Might just not judge at all. Apathy towards issues =/= apathy towards judging. Apathy towards almost everything. Neo is an apathetic person. He's a friend and all, but I'm not going to deny it. Better to read somewhere then not at all



Soja	Jun 16 2008, 01:36 AM Post #120
Gentle Water, Crashing Waves Posts: 5,171 Group: Global Moderator Member #451 Joined: October 15, 2005	Sounds fine to me. I'll be watching.
	Mirar on Sep 8 2007 06:08 PM nigga please Fusion Universe - FEF Fanfic Slayers Forth - Slayers Fanfic Smartest Member '06 & '07 & '08 & 'o9, Favored Debater '07 & '08 & '09, Most Popular '08, Manliest '08 & '09, Author of Nightmares, Scourge of the Luxon, Rules Lawyer, Nick's Former Hero, Crysta's Lover


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