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| Topic Started: Jul 12 2008, 09:34 PM (2,978 Views) | |
| Blank | Jul 12 2008, 09:34 PM Post #1 |
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Dear Fellow Fire Emblem Fusion Users: It has come to my attention that several users have been distressed about the semi-annual Fire Emblem Awards. I as well have been expressing some distress about how the awards are being operated. Various rumors and inconsistencies have come to my attention that has turned this light hearted event into something pointless. A list of the problems I have heard or encountered: • Inconsistent restrictions on nominations. I noticed in the nomination thread Tiara was not allowed to vote for Hakado as Favorite Staff Member because he wasn’t a Staff Member. However, on the Favorite RPG character award Da Niggaz were nominated. Da Niggaz are not a RPG Character, they are a guild. If we wanted an award for favorite guild, we shall make one. • Campaigning. I didn’t think this was a problem until now. Indeed this popularity contest but there comes a point where people cross the line between popularity contest and vote wars. I have heard that Da Niggaz have created a “to vote for” list. Either they vote for their guild in the awards or a chosen person to vote for. I also have heard that people have asked other individuals vote for them. • Guilds being nominated. This ties back into the previous problem. Guilds aren’t individuals. It was funny the first time Da Niggaz won awards, but it’s losing its charm. Recommendations: • Clarify what the basic requirements of the award are. I believe myself and other people didn’t think this was a problem, but apparently has become one. • Not allow guilds or groups of people to be nominated. If we were to allow this, make it such that guild members of those guilds lose the right to votes and have only one vote for the entire guild. We’ve considered guilds individuals in the past, therefore treating them as such is reasonable. • Discourage campaigning. This ties in with the previous recommendation a little, but there is little that can be done about it. The awards are supposed to be based on your opinion, not other people’s opinions. • Not to change this until next the next round of awards. These awards are almost already done so scrapping them and starting them all over again is unreasonable and would take whatever fun that is left away. This is open for debate as long as it is kept under control and respectful. I implore the members and staff of FEFF to consider my proposal and act to change the semi-annual awards. I realize this may ruin some of the fun of the awards, but it’s a small price to pay when trying to keep it fun. Sincerely, Blank |
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| Kovu | Jul 12 2008, 09:42 PM Post #2 |
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I agree with pretty much everything you said, except for the quoted. You can't stop people from campaigning. It's going to happen regardless of whether it's seen as legit or not. There's nothing that can be done. People aren't idiots. They're going to vote for who they think should win an award. Not who they're told to vote for. In CotFT's chatting forum I posted a link to all of the awards that a CotFT member was nominated for (as well as a couple polls with non-CotFTers whom are/were associated with CotFT), with their name in brackets. As well I posted a general link to the subforum where voting it taking place. It didn't stop some CotFT members from voting against their fellow guildsmen. ~ Kovu |
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| Blank | Jul 12 2008, 09:44 PM Post #3 |
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I realize that, thus I made a note of it in the document above that it wasn't really possible. However, I felt I should've included it as a recommendation. Edit: The rest are basicly changes to the way the awards are ran. Any other recommendations are welcome. |
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| Kovu | Jul 12 2008, 09:47 PM Post #4 |
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Yah. I'm just noting that campaigning (or not campaigning) won't change anything. I think one of the real issues is how seriously some people take these awards. In the end it's a popularity contest. Maybe some person deserves to win an award, and they don't, because the masses don't vote for that person. Not much that can be done. It causes a bit of stress and karma. ~ Kovu |
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| Soja | Jul 12 2008, 09:48 PM Post #5 |
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Well, you know, there was also quite a bit of vote-trading that I'm aware of... You can restrict nominations, I suppose, but not really voting. Even if these are meant for amusement, there are people who take them way too srsly. You know who I'm talking about. 
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| Blank | Jul 12 2008, 10:01 PM Post #6 |
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Oh really? Thats another rumor to add to the list. Restricting the nominations is really the only way to have some sort of control over them. Once in the voting stage, it falls to the members how things turns out. Then it falls to the voters to follow some level of ethics. |
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| Kazyen | Jul 12 2008, 10:02 PM Post #7 |
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I agree |
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| Kovu | Jul 12 2008, 10:03 PM Post #8 |
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Which is what we were trying to do when pruning nominations. Obviously we didn't do a good enough job. ~ Kovu |
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| Blank | Jul 12 2008, 10:10 PM Post #9 |
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Agreed, but somethings been nagging at me. I don't posses evidence but I heard people asking friends from other forums to join this forum just to vote for them or the way they want. I can think of handful of other ideas to boost numbers. Where does that stop though? |
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| Tiaro | Jul 12 2008, 10:12 PM Post #10 |
 
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Maybe allowing only members with x number of posts to vote? Like 100 or something. |
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| Kovu | Jul 12 2008, 10:13 PM Post #11 |
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It depends how badly the member wants to win. I could ask any number of people to register at this forum, vote for me as favourite judge, and double DS's current score. Easily. I simply don't because I'm not a moron with no moral standard. If people are so desperate to win these things that they'd do that.. well, is there really anything we can do about it? As you said, you can't prove it. Nor can I. ~ Kovu Edited: Tiara speaks truth. But another possible solution, which we perform at one of the furry communities I visit, is post-voting. Where there is no actual poll, it's run by the person controlling the contest. Everyone who qualifies and wants to vote posts once in that topic and their vote is logged. I think we did something like that in a Forum Games competition awhile back. |
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| Soja | Jul 12 2008, 10:13 PM Post #12 |
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That would be semi-elitist though.  I guess it could be that the admins restrict new members during the week of voting. Or they could put a permission mask on the voting forum that only allows members with a certain post count to enter and vote. |
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| Blank | Jul 12 2008, 10:15 PM Post #13 |
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Out of curiosity, can admins see who has voted? |
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| Leon | Jul 12 2008, 10:16 PM Post #14 |
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Unfortunately, there's no way in polls to create a required criteria in order to vote. |
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| Tiaro | Jul 12 2008, 10:26 PM Post #15 |
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Or maybe we could make a thread at the beginning and have everyone whose going to post/vote, post it in there, then after it starts, close it, so no one else can. And we can count them up if something seems off.... I dunno. 
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