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| Topic Started: Jul 13 2008, 05:41 PM (2,048 Views) | |
| Yzarc | Aug 19 2008, 10:34 PM Post #16 |
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Meh. Tanith doesn't really one round much during the time she exists. Marcia has the midgame where she thrives. Doubles everything and does enough damage to one round without forged weapons. By the time Tanith joins, units start to need higher attack to deal damage, and she doesn't really cut it. Reinforce just adds extra durability to your team that you don't need. They don't help offensively. |
  
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| Reikken | Aug 19 2008, 11:39 PM Post #17 |
 
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First of all, what do you mean "they don't help offensively"? Of course they do. They do indeed attack. The unpromoted ones do pretty crappy damage, yes, but there are alot of them, and the promoted ones are quite strong. lolsilver lance Also, not everyone is superdurable. Some are even superfragile (lol Reyson). And if you find that you made a mistake, or the RNG forces a bad situation onto you, or whatever, they can fix the problem. Now... "Meh. Tanith doesn't really one round much during the time she exists. Marcia has the midgame where she thrives. Doubles everything and does enough damage to one round without forged weapons. By the time Tanith joins, units start to need higher attack to deal damage, and she doesn't really cut it." There is no midgame where Marcia thrives. She's only one-rounding the things that are never hard to kill: mages, weighed-down mymidons, and archers. She's certainly not killing the things that Tanith (and Marcia) might have trouble with later: fighters, armors, and cavaliers. |
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| -HJ- | Aug 26 2008, 04:04 PM Post #18 |
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The one thing I don't understand is, how can you mention experience-hogging as a disadvantage for Ike in the midgame if it doesn't hinder Titania? Titania hogs Exp most of the time she's actually amazing, too. Especially in the earlygame (where you, despite what I've seen people say, don't really need her. Ever). Sure, she gets 10 Exp for a kill, not 0, but so what? It's still ridiculously low. |
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| +Hollie | Aug 26 2008, 07:46 PM Post #19 |
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I agree with this, by the way. I've managed fine with barely using Titania. I know. I'm actually posting in an FE topic. What's up with me. 
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| Sothe | Aug 26 2008, 08:02 PM Post #20 |
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I dislike Titania too. Let's all complain about Titania until a debater comes in and kicks our asses 
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| THR | Aug 26 2008, 09:07 PM Post #21 |
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whats better managing fine, or managing better than fine? |
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| +Mike Hunt | Aug 27 2008, 12:10 AM Post #22 |
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Yeah, you could probably manage fine using just like... Ike and Soren or something with enough patience and planning. But that doesn't instantly discredit Oscar and Kieran's top tier positions, and such. |
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| -HJ- | Aug 27 2008, 12:06 PM Post #23 |
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What's better? Doing just fine without wasting lots of Exp, or doing just fine and not wasting Exp? SaS: Indeed not, but Oscar and Kieran don't experience-hog like crazy. |
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| +Mike Hunt | Aug 27 2008, 12:31 PM Post #24 |
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Actually, Oscar hogs exp like crazy. He takes 1800 EXP to promote (assuming you get him to level 21 and have him automatically promote); Titania on the other hand takes 0. Just to catch up to Titania's base stats, it takes him ~1500 EXP, and even then he's still losing by 1 move, and missing axes, less opportunity for skills, and no access to Sol either. Titania, on the other hand, is comparable to Oscar with ~1500+ EXP right off the bat. |
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| -HJ- | Aug 27 2008, 12:40 PM Post #25 |
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Well, then what are you going to do? Refuse to let Oscar get kills so it's not ''unfair'' to Titania? Or perhaps you're going to let Ike get every kill or something like that? The only thing I'm saying is, using Titania early on is a huge waste, because she won't benefit nearly as much as other units will. Apparently, though, Reikken and THR don't seem to think so, even though they think using Ike in the midgame is a waste for the very same reason. |
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| +Mike Hunt | Aug 27 2008, 01:12 PM Post #26 |
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Not at all - my point is simply that you're criticising Titania for getting less exp per kill, however, for Oscar (among others), to be able to match Titania, takes a fuckton of EXP. Using Ike mid-game is obviously a waste, once he hits level 20 he doesn't gain any exp at all. Not gaining exp is substantially more wasteful than gaining a bit less exp. Titania can still progress and benefit from getting kills, albeit at a slower pace, however a level 20 Ike accomplishes nothing at all. |
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| -HJ- | Aug 27 2008, 01:21 PM Post #27 |
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I'm criticising her for getting less Exp because you need to train your other units if you want to have an easy ride for the rest of the game. Using her prevents that. If you had about 100 Exp per chapter, the fact that Titania needs less Exp would be extremely valuable, but since you have an abundance of Exp you need[/] to distribute early on, it's no problem at all that Oscar and friends require Exp. It's either give it to them or don't use it at all. The fact that Titania can choose the ''don't use it'' option is quite meaningless, really, because choosing that option is not beneficial in any way. Quite the opposite, really. Also, yes, that's true. However, getting about 30 Exp is also>>>getting about 10, so Titania is still vulnerable to the argument that was used against Ike. |
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| +Mike Hunt | Aug 27 2008, 01:56 PM Post #28 |
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Not really - you can have her rescue dead weight and weaken enemies, or use her to pick off the one soldier you missed that'll kill Soren if you don't. And no, adding 30 exp to -1800 is not better than adding 10 exp to 0. Especially since there is no EXP rank in this game. |
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| -HJ- | Aug 27 2008, 02:06 PM Post #29 |
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Well, I'm not following that logic at all, because that would mean all prepromotes, excluding the ones with hardcore fail stats are better than non-prepromoted units. Yet look, both Astrid and Makalov are quite a bit higher than the apparently awesome and Exp-efficient Geoffrey. . . |
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| Barst | Aug 27 2008, 02:09 PM Post #30 |
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Geoffrey also is available for about a third of the time Astrid and Makalov are. |
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