Mekkah vs Tino

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Mekkah vs Tino; Ewan vs Dozla
Topic Started: Oct 4 2008, 06:00 AM (126 Views)
Mekkah	Oct 4 2008, 06:00 AM Post #1
Posts: 667 Group: FEFFer Member #1,400 Joined: July 24, 2007	Both Dozla and Ewan are near the bottom of every tier list. You wouldn't use either of them as a serious combat unit. Rather, you would look at what else they bring to the team regardless of their stats. One of those things is supports. Supports with units you're actually going to be using. Dozla: L'Arachel - Sucks. Rennac - Sucks. Myrrh - She's not good, and it only helps for 50 attacks or less late in the game, and it's not like this support helps her at all with her problems: low HP, low base AS and bow weak. Ewan - If they would be played at the same time, maybe. But both of them suck, so this is not likely at all. This debate doesn't make it more likely, since it's about "which of the two is better/more helpful". So no. Garcia - Sucks. Low AS means not doubling, means half as much damage as he could have done (Dozla suffers from the same fate). Even if you were to argue he was in play, he supports _four_ people with equal or better bonuses with much better joining time. If Garcia is in play, it's likely because he fills up gaps that one of those people has. So Dozla is going supportless. Ewan: Tethys - Amazing unit. Dancers are pretty much always going to be used. She doesn't get as much out of bonuses as combat units, but she still wants them. She is a primary target for long-range assaults (due to low HP/Def) and the first PC enemies attack when given the choice (again due to low HP/Def, plus not being able to counter). This is her second fastest support, after Gerik, so Ewan gets B Tethys, or A Tethys if Gerik isn't in play. Saleh - Great unit. Low-resource dude. Can use both Light and Anima and S-rank them with ease, and he shares the Sacred Twins of those schools with like one other unit max. 1-2 range, staves and Res-hitting make him a fine contender. However, he doesn't have much in the way of supports...Myrrh has been outlined as a poor support before, and Eirika is likely to be full with Seth/Tana/Forde, and Gerik only goes up to B (since he wants A Tethys), or Gerik goes with Joshua since it offers the same bonuses. Joshua is 10 points slower, but he's with Gerik for more than 4 turns before Saleh arrives, obviously. So Saleh is pining for an A with Ewan. Dozla - Outlined above. Amelia - Sucks. Ross - Not that great either and has other options. So Ewan is providing A Saleh/B Tethys. Those units are likely to be in play, and they were unlikely to receive bonuses otherwise. What else does Dozla bring to ze table? Not much, just a combat failure. Ewan, however, has staves. Staves increase other unit's durability. Useful. Ewan may also be able to provide you with Summons. Since you're obviously not using Knoll, this is an unique thing that only Ewan can provide. Summons allow you to bait in dangerous enemies (like Stone Gorgons) with 0 risk. They also extend Ewan's own attacking range - Ewan can move 6 spaces, Summon one space before him, then that Phantom can attack an enemy that's 5 spaces away from that. 12 attacking range? Leet. Staves and Summons also draw from a seperate EXP pool, whereas Dozla can only gain EXP from fighting enemies (which anyone can do, so he's taking EXP away from others). If you do want to get into combat, that doesn't help Dozla. There is nothing to be done about his suck. He doesn't really grow throughout the game, like Ewan - rather, he becomes relatively worse, as others gain level-ups faster, kill more (thanks to doubling) and get promo bonuses and supports, neither of which Dozla gets. Sure, Ewan requires severe handholding, but only for two chapers, and the former only is to give him 9 kills (which caps him out for trainee stage). Then next two chapters he builds up some more suck and promotes at 15/0 or something. Giving Dozla the same treatment, he would probably gain four levels or so. 25 Dozla Iron Axe: 26.0 atk, 10.6 AS, 102.1 hit, 21.0 crit - - 26.4 avo, 46.4 hp, 12.2 def, 7.0 res, 5.2 critavo Steel Axe: 29.0 atk, 10.6 AS, 92.1 hit Hand Axe: 25.0 atk, 10.6 AS, 87.1 hit 10/15/1 Ewan (Mage -> Sage) B Tethys, B Saleh Fire: 21.9 atk, 14.7 AS, 141.3 hit, 25.6 crit - - 50.4 avo, 31.0 hp, 9.3 def, 18.8 res, 21.0 critavo Thunder: 23.9 atk, 14.7 AS, 131.3 hit, 30.6 crit - 50.4 avo Elfire: 26.9 atk, 11.7 AS, 136.3 hit, 25.6 crit - - 44.4 avo Offensively, Ewan has more AS, more hit _and_ more crit than lolBerserker Dozla. The only win Dozla can pull is in raw Atk, but even that is lol. Elfire Ewan beats Iron Axe Dozla by .9 Atk, and if Dozla tries to be cocky and uses Steel, he rapes his Hit even further. Like, against a 17 Avo Fighter, he would have 87% hit, which means he can miss. Against a 24 avo Merc, which he gets WTD against, he would have 73% real. Missing is bad. Doing 0 damage at an unexpected moment sux. Similiary, Ewan has 1-2 range, which means he can counter Archers, Mages, etc. Dozla can immitate with Hand Axe, but that costs him his Atk win, and rapes his Hit even further, so no thanks. And Ewan can increase his AS by going to Fire/Thunder to DA more, which offsets Dozla´s Atk win if Ewan does that. Oh, did I mention Ewan hits on Res while Dozla hits on Def? Def-res gaps for some classes: Mercs 3-4, Myrms 1, Fighters 2-3, Brigands 2, Cavaliers 6-7, Rangers 3-5, Berserkers 5, Paladins 2, Wyverns _9_. Pegasi have a reversed gap of 2-3, but Ewan one-rounds those anyway. Same for Mages/Shamans, except against those, Ewan leads in Res, so he wins by even more. Defensively, Dozla wins 15.4 HP/2.9 Def, while Ewan has 11.8 Res, 15.8 critavo and the kicker: 24 more avo, pretty much twice as much as Dozla´s. Then, Ewan once again has 1-2 range, which means he is targetted less by ranged stuffs, doesn´t have to be as near a group of enemies to attack, can be positioned on terrain more easily, doesn´t take a counter on player phase, etcetera. Does Ewan win yet? No? Well, it also takes only 12 Skl to have 1% crit on Dozla, whereas nothing can crit Ewan. Rangers have 14, Paladins 12, Myrms and Mercs 14-15...Mages don´t have enough, but the base Crt of a Thunder tome is enough to negate Dozla´s natural critavo, so they will still have 4 Crt. Not much changes after this point (presumably Scorched Sand). Dozla gets S axes for 5 Hit/Crt, but quickly Ewan gets S anima too. Ewan finishes his Saleh support, maybe gets D staves, catches up and surpasses Dozla in level (higher natural gain, doesn´t miss, staves, counters more often on enemy phase)...so that´s not helping. Ewan competes with only two people for Excalibur, one being Lute (who may not be in play) and Saleh (who can use Ivaldi). Everyone and their mom can go for Garm thanks to Devil Axe existing and Steel Axe being E-level, even if they didn´t weild axes from the start, though Duessel does exist. Soz: - Ewan provides Tethys and Saleh with supports they want. Dozla provides no one with a support they want. - Ewan can use staves. - Ewan brings Summons. - Ewan wins combat for 15-20 + Final. - Dozla wins combat for 13 and 14.



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