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Tax Day Tea Party; Texas
Topic Started: Apr 16 2009, 08:19 PM (425 Views)
Shinobi	Apr 16 2009, 08:19 PM Post #1
絶望した！！！ Posts: 1,213 Group: FEFFer Member #1,306 Joined: June 11, 2007	i heard from my dad (who heard from the news) that Texas might actually Succeed from the Union. This is possible because it was a part of the contract that Texas made when first joining the Union right after the Mexican American War. If they so wish, they can succeed from the union whenever they want. (Texas was originally it's own Country before joining America.) Because of the recent protests against the new taxes, they are threatening to Succeed. ~Discuss Edited by Shinobi, Apr 16 2009, 08:21 PM.
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*Sentenal*	Apr 16 2009, 09:36 PM Post #2
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat. Posts: 15,613 Group: FEFF Emperor Member #1 Joined: May 16, 2005	Quote: Because of the recent protests against the new taxes, they are threatening to Succeed. That is incorrect. Certain people in Texas aren't threatening to secede because of those Tax Tea Party Protests. The Obama adminstration plans to spend the US into oblivion, and that is the reason so many people are getting fired up. I personally highly doubt Texas would secede. I guess there is a one in a million chance they would try it, but honestly, its just talk.



Tripz	Apr 16 2009, 09:40 PM Post #3
Faucking Lethe in cat form^ Posts: 202 Group: FEFFer Member #1,980 Joined: July 9, 2008	I believe you mean secede. Anyways, wasn't it made a law after the Civil War that no union states could secede without a fight/agreement with all states. One time I paid attention in History class.
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Soja	Apr 16 2009, 11:25 PM Post #4
Gentle Water, Crashing Waves Posts: 5,171 Group: Global Moderator Member #451 Joined: October 15, 2005	Secession is unlikely. Talk is big, but that's all it is. Like Obama. I went to the Tea Party here in MJ. Fuck the Man.
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Simon	Apr 17 2009, 01:56 AM Post #5
The strongest among you may not wear a crown Posts: 3,318 Group: Veteran Member #885 Joined: August 19, 2006	I was unimpressed with the one in BR, honestly. So disorganized...one group was pushing Second Amendment rights, for God's sake, in what was supposed to be a protest of imminent tax hikes. What the hell?
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Kovu	Apr 17 2009, 09:02 AM Post #6
Judge/Veteran/One of oldest members/Never been a global mod cause staff is racist against furries Posts: 14,618 Group: Judge Member #7 Joined: May 16, 2005	Chris Redfield Apr 16 2009, 09:36 PM I personally highly doubt Texas would secede. Thanks for clearing that up. .. anyway, I lack cable and the will to google it. What the heck is going on down ~~20 minute drive~~ there? ~ Kovu



*Sentenal*	Apr 20 2009, 06:39 PM Post #7
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat. Posts: 15,613 Group: FEFF Emperor Member #1 Joined: May 16, 2005	Anyone else find it funny how the people who went to the Tea Parties were portrayed? Apparently, only racist rednecks were there, and they only showed up because they hate Obama.



Soja	Apr 20 2009, 07:16 PM Post #8
Gentle Water, Crashing Waves Posts: 5,171 Group: Global Moderator Member #451 Joined: October 15, 2005	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCA-3q6t57Q Listen to the fucking lack of professionalism out of this bitch reporter. It's not the media's place to defend policies, lol. What a cunt. The truth is that President Obama is the closest thing we've had to a fascist leader in a long time. The political philosophy of fascism pretty much advocates a mommy state, where citizens are more like resources than actual individuals.
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*Sentenal*	Apr 20 2009, 07:32 PM Post #9
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat. Posts: 15,613 Group: FEFF Emperor Member #1 Joined: May 16, 2005	Alucard Apr 20 2009, 07:16 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCA-3q6t57Q Listen to the fucking lack of professionalism out of this bitch reporter. It's not the media's place to defend policies, lol. What a cunt. The truth is that President Obama is the closest thing we've had to a fascist leader in a long time. The political philosophy of fascism pretty much advocates a mommy state, where citizens are more like resources than actual individuals. I'm so glad I don't watch Network News anymore. Journalism is dead.



Yzarc	Apr 21 2009, 02:22 PM Post #10
Coxian Posts: 3,432 Group: Veteran Member #308 Joined: July 8, 2005	That's true. The Daily Show was making fun of this whole ordeal, with Fox News being all like "Yay, these things are amazing," and fucking endorsing the protests while CNN was being all O'Reilly-esque, in your face, anti-protesting. Well, at least they had the clip that Soja just showed. It's kind of ridiculous, yeah. But seriously, Obama a Fascist? He won the election with both the popular vote and the electoral college, and the House and Senate are both Democrat controlled. It's like that because that's how we voted. Just because your vote didn't go to the side that is more heavily represented in congress and the white house doesn't mean you don't get a say. The whole concept of the Tea Parties are ridiculous, really. The idea is that the wording evokes imagery and history of the American Revolution. I mean, the Boston Tea Party was a significant step towards the revolution, and these teabagging parties kind of suggest that these people are so royally pissed off that they want a revolution. How ridiculous. This is economic policy, it's not fascism. Obama did not cause this economic crisis. In all truth, he's probably going to bring us out of it a lot sooner than if McCain was in office.



*Sentenal*	Apr 21 2009, 02:44 PM Post #11
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat. Posts: 15,613 Group: FEFF Emperor Member #1 Joined: May 16, 2005	Of the words I would use to describe Obama's administration, 'Fascist' isn't one of them. Communist is more apt IMO. I think people who call Obama a fascist are just doing it because people called Bush a fascist.



Conan O'Brien	Apr 21 2009, 04:12 PM Post #12
SKILLNADEN �R DRINKABILITY Posts: 2,781 Group: Veteran Member #16 Joined: June 8, 2005	For the record, Texas can't secede. As should have been obvious from the fact that the last time they tried, we went to war with them. I thought the Tea Parties were a bit dumb. It's a cool motif idea, and it's great to see the vocal opposition. Just not something I'd do. But I agree with their message, and I find the media's representation of them, outside of Fox of course, atrocious. Must be that conservative bias B_K was always talking about. Quote: Anyone else find it funny how the people who went to the Tea Parties were portrayed? Apparently, only racist rednecks were there, and they only showed up because they hate Obama. To quote celebutard of the week, Janeane Garofalo: Quote: Thank you. You know, there's nothing more interesting than seeing a bunch of racists become confused and angry at a speech they're not quite certain what he's saying. It sounds right and then it doesn't make sense. Which, let's be very honest about what this is about. It's not about bashing Democrats, it's not about taxes, they have no idea what the Boston tea party was about, they don't know their history at all. This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism straight up. That is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks. And of course Olbermann didn't call her out on it. Quote: I think people who call Obama a fascist are just doing it because people called Bush a fascist. Quote: But seriously, Obama a Fascist? He won the election with both the popular vote and the electoral college, and the House and Senate are both Democrat controlled. It's like that because that's how we voted. Just because your vote didn't go to the side that is more heavily represented in congress and the white house doesn't mean you don't get a say. Amen to both these comments. Quote: The whole concept of the Tea Parties are ridiculous, really. The idea is that the wording evokes imagery and history of the American Revolution. I mean, the Boston Tea Party was a significant step towards the revolution, and these teabagging parties kind of suggest that these people are so royally pissed off that they want a revolution. How ridiculous. This is economic policy, it's not fascism. Obama did not cause this economic crisis. In all truth, he's probably going to bring us out of it a lot sooner than if McCain was in office. You're misunderstanding the context of the Boston Tea Party. It was essentially just a massive demonstration(read: terrorist act) against unjust taxes. We only see it now as a step towards an armed revolution because we have the gift of hindsight, and the British reaction to the Tea Party turned most of Boston against the British. At the time of the Tea Party, most Americans still saw themselves as British subjects first. You're probably right though in saying that most of the protestors view it as a "second revolution", but probably just metaphorical. After all, the American Revolution was essentially the world's biggest tax revolt. I'd compare them to those idiots who go around wearing Che Guevara shirts. They are invoking the general revolutionary spirit, without giving a rat's ass about historical context. I don't presume to know whether or not McCain would get us out of this thing faster or slower than Obama. How about some reasons Obama will get us out faster?
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Yzarc	Apr 21 2009, 07:26 PM Post #13
Coxian Posts: 3,432 Group: Veteran Member #308 Joined: July 8, 2005	Well for one, McCain, as not only a Republican, but very similar in politics to Bush, would likely continue the massive amounts of deregulation that the Bush Administration is known for (among many other things). That's probably the biggest reason the crisis is so bad. Of course, these things happen in cycles, boom and bust, but we can make the busts less terrible, as we have been doing for a long long time. Since FDR's massive regulations, we haven't had a huge economic crisis until the late '70s and that was mainly (completely) due to oil prices skyrocketing. Then in 1980, Reagan decided to counter this by enacting a tight monetary policy, enacting massive deregulation and causing unemployment to skyrocket. We usually see deregulation in times of economic boom, because sometimes we see business growth equating to aggregate growth, and so we deregulate, but that usually leads to corruption, which often leads back to recession.



*Sentenal*	Apr 21 2009, 07:27 PM Post #14
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat. Posts: 15,613 Group: FEFF Emperor Member #1 Joined: May 16, 2005	Wasn't "Taxation without Representation" one of the issues behind the Boston Tea Party? People feel similar to that now, except I highly doubt there would be an armed revolution on the matter. People feel that they are being taxed, some more heavily than others, and still not getting their fair representation in the government. Thus I think its a good comparison to make.



Yzarc	Apr 22 2009, 10:02 AM Post #15
Coxian Posts: 3,432 Group: Veteran Member #308 Joined: July 8, 2005	It's a horrible comparison to make. If you feel like you're "not being represented" you're wrong. That's what you vote for. The colonies didn't have representatives in England, so that actually was taxation without representation. Just because the majority of Americans disagree with your economic policy doesn't mean you're not being represented. I'm using the general "you" here, not talking to you specifically, but to the people who are protesting like this is some crazy scandal.



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