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| Thracia - Yied, Declaration of War | |
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| Topic Started: Jul 12 2009, 12:52 AM (543 Views) | |
| Sentenal | Jul 12 2009, 12:52 AM Post #1 |
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
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We of Thracia have been pondering about Yied's recent position of "Neutrality", where they simply make free money by allowing people to pass through their country. Initially we didn't see much wrong with it, other than lack of transparency on Yied's part. But as we thought about it more, Yied making a fortune off of doing nothing is something that Thracia will not allow, as it damages the image of countries who are truly neutral to Wars abroad. We have had talks with the rulers of Isaac, one of the few countries we of Thracia still respects, due to still being a nation of Warriors. It is almost clear to me now, that Yied took their position of charging gold for armies to pass through, as a way drain Isaac of their money. So Thracia will go to war against Yied. We have a pledge of support from Isaac in this matter as well. Yied is a cross roads of sorts, and the southern portion of their land will be very advantageous to Thracia, allowing us to sell our Mercenaries to any country that would hire us. We have promised the northern half of Yied to Isaac. We will show no mercy to the exiles of the Desert. Their cities will burn, their goods pillaged. And then, when it is all said and done, the roads of Yied will be open to all, to fuel the flames of war, and ensure a steady flow of battles once again. If the rulers of Yied want to spare their people such a slaughter, they have but one option.
-Prince Reach Sento Thracia Edited by Sentenal, Jul 12 2009, 12:53 AM.
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| Ryoku | Jul 12 2009, 06:08 PM Post #2 |
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Fine and Most Esteemed Prince Reach Sento Thracia, I preface my statements by firstly stating that I am no King, and just a mouthpiece of reason within such times of turbulence. First and foremost, I question what you would mean by countries that are 'truly neutral' to wars abroad. Being a country that thrives on mercenary work, your alliance is not neutral, but to any defending country that is willing to line your coffers, just as we choose to line ours with the monies of those aggressors you have neglected your services to. The only difference between our two positions is that we seek our agreements out to spare our citizens the blade, whereas your actions are pure profiteering, as there is no repercussion towards your country that sits humbly along the edge of our lands. To further complicate the terms of 'neutrality' that you claim we do not exhibit, we actively allow anybody that wishes to prevent an assault on their lands the option to have us bar our lands from said threat, whilst when hired for services, you give your allegience to the coin of the defender, and offer the party in which you are in opposition no chance to speak you down from an attack, which by definition is not an act of neutrality, regardless of how you determine your allegiance. Further, I would like to express our sincerest regrets that Isaac does not understand the situation that we had actually afforded them. To be blunt, we would as we would to any other nation bar their advancing armies, but would never stop them from rushing to the aid of a nation they see fit to defend, as explained in our treatise. That would offer them protection from any threats unless they traversed Silesia or Manster, unless the country going to advance against them would pay the fee to cross our sands, which would be an exacting toll, offering Isaac a means of protection without even requesting pay or anything of the sort from their behalf. After allying themselves with Manster, and being able to use their lands as an assault route, this gave them a great deal of military presence as they'd have opening to advance on Thracia or Miletos, whilst still having our protection from advances on their territory unless coming from Silesia. We essentially defended their lands in a way that was truly neutral and per the agreements of the treatise. Now, on the reverse side of this, you seek to open our cooridors not because the profiteering bothers you, but because we found a decent way to utilize our land to our advantage, and because you seek to use the increased bloodlust of open attack coordiors to increase the spread of war, which would line your coffers when people need the spare defender and cannot find an ally that isn't after their spoils more than as a true ally of the nation, and apparently seek to do this by making it seem like you have terms that can be agreed to, but instead make terms that no person in their proper state of mind would even think twice of. I truly hope this is a jest, because it offends me that you would use our country, one that speaks volumes more of neutrality than you could even utter, as a forum for war because you were unable to employ your mercenary schemes in Grandbell and have made Isaac think that we in some way seek to procure funds from them when they still have various routes open for their assaults, a psuedo-fortress against assaults on themselves, and otherwise an open cooridor for their defense of other nations and the movement of troops to otherwise defend them. Furthermore, you have unwittingly brought Manster into this, as they would now be suspect of allowing aggression to pass through their borders and into ours, themselves being an instrument of war and declaring with no neutrality or chance for rebuttal that they will allow your troops passage through their country (whether by land or sea) for the express purpose of an assault. I hope you have truly thought of the repercussions of dragging a third country into this as well, especially one that appears to have no hostile intent. I do ponder if you have fully thought this out, great Prince. Signed, Marquise Lachesis of Yied |
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| Wirtjr | Jul 12 2009, 06:29 PM Post #3 |
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We honor our non-aggression pact with Thracia and allow them to freely move through our borders. Furthermore as we have no actual alliance with Thracia we see no reason for our routes to be open to the opposing side. We are neutral, and shall continue to be neutral. But if any army decides to attack our citizens while traveling to their destination, you will lose soldiers for every mile you move in our territory. Our neutrality can only be pushed so far. Betray our trust at your own peril. Highlord Remus Vallen; The Blood Raven Edited by Wirtjr, Jul 12 2009, 06:32 PM.
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| Ryoku | Jul 12 2009, 06:47 PM Post #4 |
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Highlord Remus Vallen, You yourself are not a neutral country, and have already made as such by allowing Isaac to use your lands as a staging ground to prepare for military attacks, however I can see that as of benefit to your country in the same way that we seek benefit. However, to presume that this falls into your quoted 'Non-Aggression Pact' under the stipulation of 'free passage through Melgen, so that Thracia may more effectively use our talents for the well-being of its people,' I see that you are now allowing an attack on our region to be defined as for the well-being of another. If that is what you call 'neutrality' I would be wary of your forked tongue in any dealings from henceforth. Signed, Marquise Lachesis of Yied |
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| Captain Bravo | Jul 12 2009, 07:08 PM Post #5 |
You play my nerves like strings
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We warriors of Isaac believe Yied's acts of paid "neutrality" to be despicable and against the warrior's code. Rather than fight for your earnings, you've chosen to reward the side with the most coins to line your pockets. This is unacceptable, as is your analysis of Thracia's mercenary troops. Thracia assists nations defending themselves against attacks, thus strengthening their borders. As such, aggressive nations are not rewarded with their assistance. You of Yied would harbor and thus aid those very nations Thracia would defend against. This would result in needless bloodshed, and the strengthening of other countries, which could threaten our way of life here in Isaac. This will not stand. Signed Evan Supro, Warrior of Isaac |
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| Wirtjr | Jul 12 2009, 07:16 PM Post #6 |
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And yet we are allowing anyone to travel our roads and borders. Which includes Yied, if they so desire to attack Thracia. We are not part of the conflict, we are simply not interfering. Question my word again, and you may very well provoke another enemy. We here in Manster are not as educated as others, but even we know three on one odds are not something you would like to face... So use your head and close your lips over that void in your head where your brains went missing and keep them there. Highlord Remus Vallen; The Blood Raven |
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| Ryoku | Jul 12 2009, 07:20 PM Post #7 |
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Isaac... eh... warrior? Notice that we tax those that would bring danger while allowing those with the desire to defend against threats movement unhindered. Your Thracian's 'Warriors Code' would make profit off of those that are in need of defense, taking away from their resulting earnings, whilst we would take from those that seek bloodshed and ruin and allow those that seek the noble stance of protecting another country freedom of passage. To put it in warrior terms, we allow the defenders and forestall the attackers, whilst your idolized Thracians would take from those that defend their homeland and overlook said attackers. If this is the pretense of a 'Warrior's Code' then I am gladly going to refuse taking up such a stance where I make the defender be the one to pay for my country's assistance. Perhaps we should make like Thracia and allow nations to kill our neighbors whilst making the defender pay for protection from our borders instead? And you speak of preventing needless bloodshed, when the draftee of this declaration has said thus: ' Their cities will burn, their goods pillaged. And then, when it is all said and done, the roads of Yied will be open to all, to fuel the flames of war, and ensure a steady flow of battles once again. Failure to meet these demands will result in the total annihilation of your country.' The Prince has openly stated that part and parcel of the reason he is engaged in this declaration is to see the flames of war and bloodshed be brought upon the rest of the lands. So please, before you decree Yied evil and seekers of bloodshed, first look to the ones that would claim attacks on Yied so they can fuel their own battles, whilst continuing to extort from those that would be in need of defense. Signed, Marquise Lachesis of Yied |
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| Ryoku | Jul 12 2009, 07:22 PM Post #8 |
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Highlord Remus Vallen, I see now how you would declare neutrality, and will reverse my words from before, as they no longer bear any weight should your statement of freedom to all be true. I would question your word again only to ask you this: If travel through your lands is free, then why are other countries vying for it through varying accords? Signed, Marquise Lachesis of Yied |
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| Wirtjr | Jul 12 2009, 07:38 PM Post #9 |
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As a gesture of good faith. And a way to gain weapons and supplies at a much cheaper price then they find elsewhere. Both countries profit from our accords. They save money and have the supplies they need, whereas we gain a tiny portion of money to help our citizens, and to aid us in the defense of our country should a neighbor decide that they would fare better if we were removed. We of Manster care for our own. Highlord Remus Vallen; The Blood Raven |
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| Ryoku | Jul 12 2009, 07:49 PM Post #10 |
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Highlord Remus Vallen, Understood. Any ill will that may have been presented to you prior from on my behalf is null and anything I attested to you is cleared insofar as I am concerned. You have my sincerest apologies for my hasty words before, and I do wish that you and your citizens fare better from this international dispute. Signed, Marquise Lachesis of Yied |
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| Sentenal | Jul 12 2009, 08:33 PM Post #11 |
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When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
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Take is cheap, woman. Perhaps you will see the fault of your ways once your people lie dead in the roads, your palaces burning, and everything of value carted off to our lands. Your ruler and his puppet will be slain, and set upon a pike on the tallest tower of Yied. Your streets will flow with blood. The massacres in Yied that lead up to the Second Holy War will look nothing compared to the thrashing you are about to receive. Of course, the terms of surrender still stand, if you wish to avoid your complete and total destruction. This is your last chance to accept them, however. Or maybe you want to have your country destroyed, your men put to the sword, and then you women will actually have a chance to put your tongues to good use. -Prince Reach Sento Thracia |
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| Ryoku | Jul 12 2009, 08:59 PM Post #12 |
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As I prefaced before I entered this discussion, I was just here to speak terms and help define the actual climate of your conquest to bring blood to our lands to fuel your own bloodlust, however none of my words are those of the King. I am just here to make idle chatter while clearing up any misconceptions you may have intricately weaved, though personally I have no desire to take up arms. The decision to make war or peace hinges upon the words of his majesty, the King, and none other. I apologize that I cannot tickle your fancies any faster than the King's word, however I understand it is in Thracian nature to be rather... hasty shall we say? Perhaps you should learn perhaps some degree of self-control; I'm sure the Thracian concubines would be the slightest bit more amused by it than your quick flights of fancy. Signed, Marquise Lachesis of Yied |
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| Sentenal | Jul 14 2009, 07:15 PM Post #13 |
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When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
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I guess your King is cowering in fear, not even brave enough to acknowledge this war. What a pitiful country. Destroying it will actually be doing you a favor. |
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| Ryoku | Jul 14 2009, 07:20 PM Post #14 |
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I think he's currently swamped with more important things. Like what to do with the amount of sand in the country or discussing the current state of flora and fauna in the nomad lands to make sure we're not facing any sort of real crisis. We work with matters from the top down, you just so happen to not be at the top of the list. We'll get to you when you matter. |
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| Simon | Jul 14 2009, 07:20 PM Post #15 |
The strongest among you may not wear a crown
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uh oh |
Previously: Ron DeLite, Simon
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