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| Keano; Stay or Go? | |
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| Topic Started: 1 Nov 2009, 06:59 (190 Views) | |
| Sweatybum | 1 Nov 2009, 06:59 Post #1 |
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Ok so the time has come for Keano to face his moment of truth from the fans. We all know 'Arry loves him but really he has been pretty pony since Benitez threw him out with the rubbish and he came scurrying back to WHL with his tail between his legs. He's been a great servant to the club since 2002 but his contributions of late seem to be running round like a headless chicken waving his arms around in the air. Ok so he's scored four Premier League goals this season (all in the one game against Burnley at WHL!), but I believe the Irishmans time is up. If we harbour serious ambitions of breaking into the top four I personally don't believe Keano is good enough to lead us there, or to play for us and keep us there once we do finally break into those CL places. I'm feeling pretty pleased with myself 'cos this is the first 'poll' I've ever done and if you guys would vote in the normal way it would be greatly appreciated. I've voted for the 'Sell' option. |
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| GO! | 1 Nov 2009, 07:35 Post #2 |
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I try not to diss Spurs players if I can. I'll have a bit of rant if they under-perform but I try not to just slag them off too much (unless they do a Ghaly) so I'll offer the same courtesy to Keano. He has done a lot for the club since he came, and gave us two particularly outstanding seasons when he paired up with Berbatov but I feel now age has got the better of him and theres a need for a changing of the guard up front. He's neither a link up man nor an out and out striker these days so I'm not sure what actually is any more.....other than over weight? (Or was that my imagination?) I dont doubt he probably has a couple of good seasons in him for somebody but not for a team aspiring to make European (even if not CL) football a gimme. He's not looking sharp, he's never had lightning pace (although that wasn't a part of his game) but he seems to have lost a yard since he left us for pool. Having Crouch in the side makes us play the long ball whether Harry tells them to or not, Pav is never going to cut it (disappointingly) and Keano has lost it. Defoe is undoubtedly the best we have right now and even he is not world class! Keep Defoe (and Crouch as No4 choice) p**s the other two off and buy some fresh quality. (How big a stuff-up was letting Arshavin slip through our grasp huh?  )
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| Riggsy | 1 Nov 2009, 12:45 Post #3 |
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Just read your coments GO! and it got me thinking, does Keane need to change his playing style because of his age, bear with me, its just a thought. Anelka, for example, was a player all about pace, all about beating the defence will speed and trickery, but now hes older and has lost a bit of speed, he has started to use different attributes in his game to challenge defenders, becoming smarter in a way. Does Keane have to do something similar? As his current form will only see him on the bench or out of the club altogether imo! Just a thought! 
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| Sweatybum | 1 Nov 2009, 14:33 Post #4 |
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He has changed his playing style Riggsy. He's gone from being a dangerous, predatory goalscorer as he was when he was one half of the Premier Leagues most feared front two with Berbatov, into a headless chicken who runs around flapping his arms and who couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo! |
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| Whoami? | 1 Nov 2009, 20:03 Post #5 |
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I've got splinters  but i'm leaning towards selling him. He's been absolutely gash since he came back. He was at his best with Berba, but now he's gone, he's like a little lost boy running around. |
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| GO! | 2 Nov 2009, 06:53 Post #6 |
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Sweaty almost had a point before it turned into a rant  Riggsy, he has changed his playing style hasn't he? When he played with Berbatov the Bulgarian was the link up man and Keano was the predator. Now he's kinda switched more to the man-in-the-hole whether thats where he's meant to be playing or not. Surely, when Defoes playing you can almost understand it (if Robbie was in fact any good in that roll....which he obviously isn't) but when he's paired with Crouch it makes no sense as PC is the 'hold it up for the main striker' man even though Keanes out there delivering balls instead of playing off of Crouch's flicks and nod-ons, so who's there to stick it in the net? As I said, it almost works with Defoe but thats not he meant to be best at. And what is IS meant to be best at, he isn't anymore. He's passed his prime imo. I was glad he came back but he's not the same player so he should move on and look for a club to retire with. |
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| Sweatybum | 2 Nov 2009, 07:01 Post #7 |
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Pack him off to Celtic in January. Trouble is they haven't got the kind of money that Levy would want to recoup after having paid Liverpool a reported £12 million on his return to WHL. How about some sort of player plus cash deal involving either Scott Brown or Aiden McGeady? |
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| Kippa | 2 Nov 2009, 08:33 Post #8 |
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Sell! I like your idea Sweats! |
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| Yid Army | 2 Nov 2009, 14:13 Post #9 |
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Yeah he can go...i think his best days are long behind him. |
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| Butch | 2 Nov 2009, 16:11 Post #10 |
League Cup Winner
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I think that Gio or Luka would be better played as the man in the hole type position rather then Keano. In all honesty i dont know why we got Crouch in and i think we could well let him and Keano go and maybe even Pav if he isnt gonna get a run i the team or take any chance that he is given and start again with JD plus 3 others or JD and Gio and 2 others. |
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| Gaz:THFC | 2 Nov 2009, 16:31 Post #11 |
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Maybe Keano needs a rest but having seen him against Stoke the spirit was there but sadly he was out played to the extent he started to lose his rag and pushed a stoke player over the billboard. We need a big squad to see us through the season and Keano is still part of it till the seasons end. |
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| MichSpur | 2 Nov 2009, 20:03 Post #12 |
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At this point, I'm in the "sell" camp. His best days are definitely behind him and I've been frustrated with him (and Lennon to some extent) for constantly bitching, moaning, and waiving arms around like they are entitled to a call every time someone's breathes on them or the pass isn't put to the spot that they were telepathically telling their fellow Yid to put it to. His role has really changed and I don't think its for the better. He and the sulking Bulgarian were something special....at least until they each started looking over the fence at other people's grass. Now, Keane is a shadow of himself after being tossed out on his ear and the sulking Bulgarian is only having short flashes of what he was at Spurs with many ManUre supporters looking to dump him to Europe as soon as possible. I'm all for the McGeady swap+cash deal. Although, I've heard McGeady is a bit of a prima donna who thinks he's better than everyone else at Celtic and lets them know it. I'm not sure that is what I want as Spurs, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now, especially since he seems to be one of the best at Celtic. |
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| JonnyHotspur | 2 Nov 2009, 20:14 Post #13 |
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Sell. |
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| Sweatybum | 2 Nov 2009, 20:19 Post #14 |
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Short and sweet, straight to the point Jonny!! |
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| Dee | 2 Nov 2009, 21:58 Post #15 |
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Sell ! All this guff about us having us all this firepower is a load of brown stuff. Defoe is the only one worth hanging onto. Shame that Pav has never been really given the chance to reproduce his best form for us, and I'm still not convinced that Crouch is a better player than Bent. Keane is only in the team on past glories, and if we can recoup a reasonable amount of money for him, then get rid asap |
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| YOTL | 3 Nov 2009, 20:09 Post #16 |
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sell |
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| JonnyHotspur | 3 Nov 2009, 20:29 Post #17 |
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| AT | 4 Nov 2009, 13:37 Post #18 |
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Sell. I don't know what they did to him at Anfield. But he is half the player he was before he left us. I also agree that JD is about the only striker really doing it for us right now. But if we get rid of the other 3 who do we get in? |
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| Doygul | 5 Nov 2009, 00:26 Post #19 |
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i've always said push Luka into the more central role supporting the strikers and buy a left footed left winger!! the reply from alot of you was that Keane is the link up man in the middle well my friends it seems we have all come to acknowledge Keano is not that man anymore!! |
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| GO! | 5 Nov 2009, 12:25 Post #20 |
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Never was! He's not a midfielder, he's not a left winger, he's a striker......and a bit of a fat one at that! Find another #9 like Berbatov and you might've got another year of the old Keano before his wheels finally fell off but I fear that will never happen. At least not in time anyway. |
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| AT | 5 Nov 2009, 13:31 Post #21 |
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I agree. I can't see him ever recapturing the form he showed a couple of seasons ago. If he can't do it in the (usually) free-scoring side we currently have, when will he be able to do it again? |
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| Kebabyuchenko | 5 Nov 2009, 14:58 Post #22 |
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Four-Keane hell, we gots ta keep the lad! Kebabyuchenko xxx |
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| Whoami? | 5 Nov 2009, 19:32 Post #23 |
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| Doygul | 6 Nov 2009, 21:50 Post #24 |
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Was too! You all said that Keano was the link up man in the middle and Modric was simply not capable... I know he is a striker thats why i was saying this then we could have 2 strikers for goalscoring purposes and not 1 who tries to link up play but just doesn't cut it! |
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| GO! | 7 Nov 2009, 01:52 Post #25 |
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We were all probably guilty of doing a Harry by bunging him out there somewhere just for the sake of it. Now its looking almost like its wasting a man when there could be someone out there doing a specific job rather than a windmill impression and looking good against rubbish like Burnley. If he's a striker then we need him to score against all comers or at least be dangerous. Four goals in one a game is an amazing achievement for any striker but in the league I think he's only scored one other and that was a header against Hull. This being the case - although 5 is still a bloody good total at this stage compared to others strikers - since 4 of them came in one game and the other was against Hull he's not exactly putting fear into all defences any more. Should we be dissin someone that's joined both the WHL '100 club' (a couple of years back) and a fairly exclusive 'Four in one match club' just a few weeks ago? It does feel a little harsh. |
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| Kippa | 7 Nov 2009, 03:50 Post #26 |
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If there is no concistnancy in performance then, simply, yes. |
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| paul1300 | 7 Nov 2009, 16:10 Post #27 |
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sell him deffo we should never have bought him back in th efirst place |
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| Dee | 7 Nov 2009, 21:24 Post #28 |
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Don't think we are being harsh - you can't take away his past achievements, but the plain fact is he is not the player he was |
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| Riggsy | 7 Nov 2009, 21:34 Post #29 |
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We were so much more dynamic without him. 2day he was meant to be a link man, and he wasn't in that link position once, all he did was do aimless runs and wave his arms about. Ok, he was out of position today, but even when he is in his own position, he's been poor. It shouldn't matter if he's captain, if you're playing badly you should be dropped, simple!! Time to move on imo! |
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| GO! | 8 Nov 2009, 01:31 Post #30 |
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But you see what he can still do with his positional sense if he's in his natural strikers roll. You dont necessarily need lighting pace (we have Defoe and Lennon for that) but someone who know where to be and when can be just as good at times. If he's going to play at all then play him as a striker ffs. At times in the Sunderland game he was behind Benny yet didn't really seem to be playing left mid which would ALLOW for them to overlap. I'm not sure WHERE the hell he was meant to be tbh! 
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| Doygul | 8 Nov 2009, 22:48 Post #31 |
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for all the goals he has scored in his first visit to club i am eternally grateful but since his return he has not been half the player he was and for this shouldn't be in the team regardless of scoring over 100 goals for the club |
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| AT | 9 Nov 2009, 00:44 Post #32 |
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Speaking to a United fan, I came to the conclusion, that Kenao is in a similar position to Michael Owen now. Namely living off past reputation and weighing in with the odd goal (or 4) every now and again. Thing is though Fergie is willing to play him from the bench most of the time, whereas Harry seems scared to do this. |
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| MichSpur | 9 Nov 2009, 17:40 Post #33 |
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I appreciate all the past glory he has helped produce, but he needs to be sold. For his sake and for Spurs. Let him take the payday at Celtic where he can be praised and paid for being Robbie Keane and Spurs can move on and avoid any further disappointment from the supporters toward Keano. |
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