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[DB] Dattebayo DEAD???
Topic Started: Dec 27 2007, 11:31 AM (3,699 Views)
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DB Halting Fansubbing Production Indefinitely, Effective Immediately

2007/12/27

Dear leechers,

We have warned everyone repeatedly on the issue of streaming our subs.

We sincerely appreciate everyone's efforts to spread the Naruto/Bleach love, but were growing increasingly frustrated, not to mention worried, over our repeatedly ignored requests not to upload our material to Veoh, Youtube and other streaming sites.

Perhaps you guys aren't aware, but the flagrant disregard for our requests puts us in an increasingly vulnerable position as a fansubbing group. We don't want to be shut down (which is something we are in constant threat of) and if our rules are not honored, we may well be.

Therefore we once again make this request:

    * Please do NOT upload any of our released episodes to streaming sites.

Since it's hard to get people to comply just by writing in these news, we need to get your attention. So effective immediately, we are forced to stop releasing our subtitled episodes for ALL our current projects until the request is met, full stop. This includes Naruto, Bleach, Pitagora Switch and Pokemon.

We regret that we have to take such a drastic stance, but our requests have gone ignored for years. There's not much more we can do to protect ourselves and to continue bringing these episodes to fans, but we believe that taking these precautions now will keep us operational for the long run. And we hope to keep bringing these episodes to English-speaking fans for a long time. Please help us by abiding by our rules.

Here’s the issue: Dattebayo translates and subtitles anime, and released the episodes for public download on our website. Lots of well-meaning fans then take these Dattebayo episodes, re-encode / cut them into parts and upload them onto streaming sites like Youtube or Veoh. THIS IS BAD. The reason is not because Dattebayo is stupid or annoying or mean.

  1. It's disrespectful to the subbers’ wishes, but more importantly,
  2. Fansubbing is not legal, and with the popularity of Naruto/Bleach growing, legitimate companies have licensed them for DVD releases outside of Japan.

That makes fansubbers a target - although Dattbayo makes no money, legally the companies have all the right to shut us down. Because Dattebayo is a prominent fansubbing group, it's at constant risk and legal threat. When you put videos on Veoh/Youtube, that exposes the group and makes it a big target.

To this end, Dattebayo has politely and repeatedly asked uploaders on many streaming sites to STOP UPLOADING our files. Many people assume that the uploaders have Dattebayo's permission, but that's not true. The uploaders have basically ignored all polite requests to stop. With recent changes to Youtube "copyright enforcement" policy, it's nearly impossible to get Dattebayo material removed once it's been uploaded, therefore leaving our work in horrible quality for everyone to view.

Which is why Dattebayo has decided that we will put a hold on all our subtitled episode releases until the uploaders comply. We've been way too nice so far by letting this issue slide, but this is the end. Here's our (repeated) request to everyone who butchers our work by uploading it to streaming sites. STOP. If you're an uploader, please DO NOT UPLOAD DATTEBAYO SUBS to any more streaming sites. If you're guilty of doing this in the past, and your streaming site account is still valid, GO AND DELETE ALL THE DATTEBAYO VIDEOS WHICH BELONG TO YOUR ACCOUNT. We NEVER gave ANYONE permission to upload our work to ANY STREAMING SITE.

It might be annoying to have to figure out how to watch anime without Youtube or Veoh, but trust me, it's really not that hard. And some fans complain, "I don't know how to do it! It’s too hard! I need Veoh!" Well, if we fansubbers can figure out how to download Naruto, translate it, time it, edit it, encode it, release it - surely you can learn how to watch it. Or you can always (and should) buy the DVDs when they're released officially.

Dattebayo is providing a SERVICE - a free, fast, reliable service. Fansubbers would like to keep providing the service, so we hope everyone can understand why this decision has been made. Dattebayo's wish is NOT to shut down anime-sharing - it’s to keep it alive for the long run. Please help by considering the bigger picture.

Without streaming sites, anime-watching may become less convenient, that is unfortunately true. But it's better than shutting down fansubbing entirely - because then you'll have no anime at all.

Dattebayo Fansubs, LLC. Taking internet seriously for the last 3.22 years


I think its a stupid troll again. But at some points it made me think about copyright etc.
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its obviously a Troll i think XD
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*gives a cheer in hopes that it is not a troll* =P I think I may be one of very few that does not like dattebayo.
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its a troll. i was a staff for dattebayo and man there was a lot of bs. db is probably trying to scare people to stop uploading their videos so other sites won't take credit for their work lol. they(db) make sure db gets all the credit... losers. z~r

and kazuki, u are not the only one that dislikes them. :gunz:
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well they took the perfect timing doing this ^^ the next shippuuuden episode will be aired on 10.1.08 and bleach also ^^
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lol first they say

Dattebayo is providing a SERVICE - a free, fast, reliable service. Fansubbers would like to keep providing the service, so we hope everyone can understand why this decision has been made. Dattebayo's wish is NOT to shut down anime-sharing - it’s to keep it alive for the long run. Please help by considering the bigger picture.

then they complain about stuff. :v
they're contradicting themselves, if they're providing a service then go do it and stop complaining
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I know that DB doesn't understand the concept of friendly customer relations, but I can understand their sentiments. I have never received one personally but once a group receives a C&D letter, they HAVE TO stop subbing. I have been a part of groups that have received such letters and damn, the group will shut down asap. This is in all likelihood a ploy on their part but, I feel the intentions are good as they will still be able to release subs in the future. I mean, come on guys. None of us can truthfully claim that they are bad when it comes to their actual releases. As long as I don't have to deal with them personally, I will in all probability leech off of them for as long as they sub.

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Awaiting the expected onslaught after this little spiel.... :nuke:
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i quit watching all the shows they sub, but yeah C&d letter is worst that can happen
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lol luckly softsubs get around law stuff like that XD
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what other fansub group sub naruto / bleach / pokemon?
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Flomp-Fansubs & Rumbel subs Bleach
NinjaBuzz subs Naruto Shippuuden
(I personally think NinjaBuzz is a better fansubbing group)
As for Pokemon, I have no clue. Pshhhh Pikachu <_<
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well i like DB.
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DB subs are ok. and since they release most of the time (if not always) within 24 hours.

i also think that their attitude / customer service really sux..
but i think i have an idea why it became so..

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P.S. This is NOT a troll. Also, NO ACCOUNT on Youtube is operated, given permission to upload, or approved by us. So stop asking.
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DB is the best! They do all their subs around 12 hours after the Japanese ep airs! Plus, if you aren't a leecher that hates their trolls, you'll find them really funny at how effective they are at tricking people. Bleach in high def and The Diamond Dust Reballion were so funny. If ur not a cynic, you'll learn to love them!
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no DB sucks. the only thing they had going for them is the speed. but the trolls are funny.
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