Who died in the "Clock Tower Murders"?

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Who died in the "Clock Tower Murders"?
Topic Started: Jan 14 2007, 09:19:36 PM (590 Views)
enigmaopoeia	Jan 14 2007, 09:19:36 PM Post #1
DOLPHINATSU WILL KILL U! Posts: 3,667 Group: Marquess Member #1 Joined: 04/23/06 Gender: Female ♀	I want to know who do you think are the 10 victims who were killed during the "Clock Tower Murders"? Posted Image We all know that this concludes that the S Endings are not the true Endings because obviously Anne and Rolla both had to die as they are 2 of the 10 victims that were murdered. So if we were striving for the A Ending, that leaves: 1.) Bobby Burroughs. They found his body in the Clock Tower. 2.) Mary Burroughs. They found her body in or around the Clock Tower. 3.) Dan Burroughs. They found his remains in the Underground Cave. 4.) Lotte. They found her body in the Underground Cave. 5.) Walter Simpson. They found his body in the Concealed Room of the West Wing Storage Room. 6.) Anne. They found her body from one of her many deaths. 7.) Rolla. They found her body from one of her many deaths. 8.) Simon Burroughs. They found his body in the Courtyard Shed. Most likely he would die from starvation. These are all possible suspects in the mass murders; consider that they would call the bodies of the Burroughs as part of the murders. Now as for the remaining 2 victims, could it be the mummy found in the locker of the Collection Room? It was obviously that of a human's. Apart from that, there are only animals such as the parrot, cockroaches, crows, cats, and doberman -- which I doubt they would call as "victims". Especially with the wording being "over 10"; that means there could be more than 11 victims, wouldn't it? Unless Barton have heard wrong, or Kay and the Granite Orphanage fabricated a story about Edward and stated that him and his friends were part of the victims. It would explain why Edward fooled a lot of people, especially Barton himself. Other than that, I actually have no idea who the last 2 victims are! What do you guys think?
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Lime	Jan 14 2007, 10:10:45 PM Post #2
eye dee kay Posts: 4,411 Group: Subordinate Member #33 Joined: 01/07/07 Gender: Female ♀	I had always concluded that Mary had brought other children to the mansion, and that they were included as victims. It would make the reason why Edward was there reasonable, as the investigators of the scene of the crime could have been lead to the conclusion that he had found a way to escape Bobby. Why would the Burroughs family members be included as victims of the murders, though? I'm pretty sure that Jennifer would tell them about what Mary had done, and that Bobby and the others were pretty much after her as well. (Well, Simon tried to eat her!)
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JBurroughs	Jan 20 2007, 03:05:33 AM Post #3
ALYSSA! I've become a Subordinate! Posts: 404 Group: Newspaper Reporter Member #28 Joined: 12/17/06 Gender: Female ♀	Quote: Why would the Burroughs family members be included as victims of the murders, though? I'm pretty sure that Jennifer would tell them about what Mary had done, and that Bobby and the others were pretty much after her as well. (Well, Simon tried to eat her!) "You mustn't hypnotize her like this. She's not ready to remember the murders yet." This line from Helen makes it sound like Jennifer has mild amnesia, so it's possible she doesn't remember being attacked by Mary and Simon. Neither she nor anyone else mentions a killer other than Scissorman. 'Course, it's also possible Jennifer did remember and talk about the others, and Barton simply didn't believe her due to lack of evidence (Barton shows himself skeptical of her story early on, and Mary had to be good at covering her tracks to get away with as much as she did. In TFF, your friends' corpses do have a habit of disappearing after you leave the room, so it's not outside the realm of reason to assume the bodies are being moved to compromise the crime scene in the event of discovery). As for who the other victims are... I would guess some of the meat in the freezer wasn't ham. I don't have any evidence for that (unless Dan's special-recipe Harris Gravy in CT/2 counts as evidence ;)), I just think it's an icky idea.



enigmaopoeia	Feb 3 2007, 01:05:53 PM Post #4
DOLPHINATSU WILL KILL U! Posts: 3,667 Group: Marquess Member #1 Joined: 04/23/06 Gender: Female ♀	Yeah, JBurroughs brought up a good claim. Jennifer could be repressing her memories of the "Clock Tower murders", so it seems likely that she would only remember Scissor Man. But the idea that the meat in the locker wasn't ham is plausible. It's a shame that we only know so little about the family, though I am not convinced that they are cannibals and would use human meat as food. Hah hah hah, Harris Gravy, I LOVE IT!! <3
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clocktowersurviver	Feb 27 2007, 09:27:41 PM Post #5
Posts: 201 Group: Granite Orphan Member #53 Joined: 02/24/07	that sounds about right



Guest	Mar 10 2007, 03:49:41 PM Post #6
Unregistered	Let's just say that we count the mummy as number 9. We still have one person left. Is it possible that it's the person who walks past the Doberman in the cave? Unless it was Mary, but I am unsure about that...
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Lime	Mar 10 2007, 04:45:48 PM Post #7
eye dee kay Posts: 4,411 Group: Subordinate Member #33 Joined: 01/07/07 Gender: Female ♀	Yes, that person was Mary.
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TannerMoG	Mar 18 2007, 02:51:38 PM Post #8
FLEX Posts: 1,308 Group: Hospital Director Member #83 Joined: 03/17/07	I was pondering this, when something clicked. What if we're overthinking this? What if the answer is right in the game... A room seems to have the answer in it... And that room is... ... ... ... Dramatic pause... ... ... The room with Gotts in Helen's Scenerio. It has skelitons of Children in it, right? Well, if the clans manor had children murdered in it, is it not safe to asume children where killed in the manor in Norway? This wasn't stated in the first game, most likally because they didn't plan for a sequel... The only hole I see in it would be "if so, why are there no corpses in the PS1 remake?" And... I can guess that that would be because they hadn't finalized the plot for Clock Tower 2 yet. Its a bit out there, but it seems to make scense. Hellspawn such as bobby and Dan would love to have playmates... and Mary worked as a teacher, it wouldent be hard for her to lure children into her clutches... she has a great poker face. Also, she seems very trustworthy and foursefull, she might have even been able to get adults... Remember the corpse in the Trophy room? And the human heart?
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The third twin... JEBEDIAH!	Apr 7 2007, 02:39:28 AM Post #9
Hiding amongst Amish Posts: 1,066 Group: Hospital Director Member #68 Joined: 03/11/07	Is it me... Or is the heart still beating when you find it??
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Lime	Apr 7 2007, 02:50:55 AM Post #10
eye dee kay Posts: 4,411 Group: Subordinate Member #33 Joined: 01/07/07 Gender: Female ♀	The third twin... JEBEDIAH! Apr 7 2007, 01:39 AM Is it me... Or is the heart still beating when you find it?? You mean the one in the collection room? I thought it was, too.
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TheNoun	Apr 10 2007, 07:45:37 PM Post #11
Poor Dan... Posts: 1,005 Group: Hospital Director Member #85 Joined: 03/20/07 Gender: Female ♀	Yes, it looked as if it was still beating. I agree that there may have been unknown victims not shown due to lack of plot knowledge for the next game.Furthermore, if they had a corpse littered mansion, the game might never have been made at all(it was an SNES game after all, they would have never been allowed to have a lot of blood and gore.)
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The third twin... JEBEDIAH!	Apr 10 2007, 11:00:15 PM Post #12
Hiding amongst Amish Posts: 1,066 Group: Hospital Director Member #68 Joined: 03/11/07	Hooray for development!
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kyrtuck	Jan 30 2008, 12:15:07 PM Post #13
Party Pirate Posts: 585 Group: Newspaper Reporter Member #145 Joined: 07/07/07 Gender: Male ♂	Personally, I don't think they would've counted Dan, because his "dead body" was just a pile of ashes. Investegators would not have counted this as a dead body, ecspecially when most people didn't believe Jenifer's account of things.
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