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| From Broken Clock with Questions; Re: ObscureNightmares and her character. | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 1 2007, 09:56:24 PM (627 Views) | |
| phobos | Sep 3 2007, 11:29:06 PM Post #16 |
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Me and her have been having a debate. Hee is the forum link. http://brokenclock.proboards75.com/index.c...86114262&page=2 |
 
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| Ikary | Sep 3 2007, 11:31:03 PM Post #17 |
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Heh, I'm interested in it but I can't login. Is it too much if I ask for a couple of screenshots? :P |
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| Lime | Sep 3 2007, 11:33:41 PM Post #18 |
eye dee kay
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Argh, you need to sign in to see it. >< Thanks for sharing that with us though, Phobos. Now, since the question's been answered, it may be a good idea to close the thread now, just so nothing has the chance to start up, on the thread or otherwise. I'll see what Bugashi and Enig think about it before doing anything, though. |
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| phobos | Sep 3 2007, 11:41:43 PM Post #19 |
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No one thought I was flaming right? |
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| enigmaopoeia | Sep 3 2007, 11:43:32 PM Post #20 |
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I felt that we have said enough on this subject, and decided that it's best we closed down this topic since Goldie knows why SyberiaWinx was banned in the first place. No one thought I was flaming right? Unfortunately I cannot see said topic, since I was banned at her forum. |
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| Tonbo Jigen | Sep 6 2007, 07:33:37 PM Post #21 |
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I apologize that this is my first post here, however I come with a mission. I am seeking truth behind the one known as "ObscureNightmares" as well as her ungrounded claim of Broken Clock being "the only good Clock Tower forum out there" as sent out by a mass e-mail. When inquired about it, she said "There really aren't any others that are still active. Another forum does exist, but it is not considered "good", since the admin kind of stabbed me in the back and used underhanded means to steal members from here." I have since received statement from mrbates about his own forum, and this place through a private message. I have received another PM, by another who wished to go unnamed, that not only noted this place, but the following Wikipedia pages as well. This is the talk page of her IP My Webpage This is one of the arguments over the links What began as a question on other Clock Tower forums, quickly became an investigation of the person's character, due to ungrounded claims and failure to produce any solid evidence. The information given from the PM was a little hit or miss, namely because I did not have any way of getting her IP. While I did not share the given information with anyone at Broken Clock, I kept it logged on my computer and deleted it as a precaution. After that, I began my questions while taking note of things repeated and unsaid. It was about here where mrbates came in and made claim that enigmaopoeia had stolen their video and posted it on YouTube. From the comments made on the video, mrbates asked if enigmaopoeia took the video instead of making any actual claim of theft. From this, it was SyberiaWinx (who I believe is ObscureNightmares) began coaching mrbates to report enigmaopoeia for theft, as well as plugging her claim of lies. To cut this short, here is the video and comments in question. A bit of warning, there is an issue with the video's volume. I would advise ether turning down your computer's volume, or turning the volume off. The end result of this was an image of a person holding of what was confirmed by mrbates to be a Windows 95/98 disc for Clock Tower. I investigated the image to great detail, in case of any falsehood was actually made, only to conclude that the image was authentic. I posted my findings at Broken Clock, and from this I took grave offense. After many questions, given how she constantly ignored many points I had made by giving the same answer time after time again, ObscureNightmares was already beginning to bore, tire, and drag upon my nerves. In regards to my analysis of the image, she returned saying that enigmaopoeia was "very good at graphic design" and that "there are too many ways for a person to fake something like that." After a short bit, she then posted what I find to be an unrealistic way for enigmaopoeia to fake such an image, using mrbates as an example. Just to take out the example from actual use, I pointed out the fingernails and noted that they are more common with females. I then asked for proof of her claim of the image being faked, to which was also ignored. I also went into a small bit about the power ones name has over the ownership of various items. I also (again) pointed out how none of these things happen without a reason, to which I'm fairly sure ObscureNightmares does not understand in full, if at all. By this time I just received notice via e-mail that my account here was approved, to which I also announced that I would be bringing my investigation over here as well. I had also offered to share my findings over at Broken Clock as well. At this point, mrbates then came up with a possible piece which of evidence which could of been used, though the timing of such was rather odd given how he had better opportunity to do so before identifying it as a Windows 95/98 disc. Regardless, I do know that reprints often use a lesser number of colors, so it held little to no ground (in case the disc was in fact a reprint). However, after this, ObscureNightmares then said "You can share your findings, but they are likely false." If I could post a sound, it would be of an atomic blast. I then posted my anger towards this ObscureNightmares, in which I'm sure struck a nerve. I posted how she had ignored many of the things I have said, how she did nothing but pitch a bias place for anything that would possibly back her claims (to which, in my opinion, equates "I don't know"), as well as spitting on that which I value. I've noted instances where evidence shows falsehood within her own actions. I also noted that she had nothing to gain from lying to me. I value truth, which allows me and enables me to find it unquestionably. I value honesty, which also allows and enables me to find it just as well! I also value reason, to which aids in the search and pursuit of truth and honesty. I had many things to back my words on many levels, yet she spat on all that I valued, one of her own members. Of my final post, I closed with the following. "The only way to redeem yourself is to consider the gravity of the matter at hand. Reply saying I'm incorrect on any level and I am correct. Lock this and I am right. Alter this post and I will win. Delete this and take your loss. Ban me and I'll be victorious. You have crossed the line, these are my terms. Accept and you may stand a chance. Deny and you will lose." To this, she deleted the post. I then noted this on the Cbox, as well as how she needs to reevaluate herself. If she was unable to handle me, then how would she handle reality? I then reposted my final post (to which I had made a backup), which was also deleted. She then banned me from Broken Clock, which in turn has just dammed her to whatever events may unfold. I am not here to cause trouble in any form, and if I do then I apologize. I am here more over to investigate the various claims made against this place, as made by ObscureNightmares. I may have questions from time to time about things to which I may not understand. However, if anyone has anything they wish to add to my investigation, please do so by private message. |
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| KazeTaco | Sep 6 2007, 07:54:12 PM Post #22 |
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Well, welcome to the forum! As for an 'investigation' she isn't worth the time. Seriously. Spend your time here enjoying Clock Tower instead of wading through the drama that Syberia started. Seriously, no one believes her. I heard that Broken Clock was dead, anyway, and I kinda feel bad for the people that are still there. Again, welcome to the forum. =3 |
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| mrbates | Sep 6 2007, 08:32:27 PM Post #23 |
Haruna Ai
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Really, she is not rude. Your comments to her were rude. That is why she banned you. |
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| KazeTaco | Sep 6 2007, 08:34:35 PM Post #24 |
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I may not be a mod or anything, but do you think y'all could discuss this over PM or something? Please? I really don't want to read about it on this board. x-x; |
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| Ikary | Sep 6 2007, 08:35:38 PM Post #25 |
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Hi there. Luckily you are another of the ones who found out how SyberiaWinx really is. All I can say is that now that you know this, if you can tell others about it, I think that wouldn't be bad at all. About the video, despite what SyberiaWinx says, not only does Enigmaopoeia have a copy of the game, but she has also pointed out several differences between the versions. And lastly, the youtube video has audio, and mrbates' does not. |
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| KazeTaco | Sep 6 2007, 08:38:46 PM Post #26 |
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*rubs her temples* Personally I don't care, as she's just one person on the internet. She's banned, dude. Can we please... drop it here? I mean... PMs are good... you can do that there... or something... I don't know ._.;; |
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| Ikary | Sep 6 2007, 08:44:57 PM Post #27 |
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Oooookay, it's cool :) |
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| KazeTaco | Sep 6 2007, 08:45:38 PM Post #28 |
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DESHI.
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Thank you so much, Ikary! *gives a kiss to him and each person on this thread* Muah, muah, love you all. *throws around Mikoshi-samas* |
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| Tonbo Jigen | Sep 6 2007, 09:06:07 PM Post #29 |
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In my opinion, her ignoring various questions, and calling future results false was rude. Giving nothing but the same answer time after time with no regards to what was said or it's context was rude. Making a reply with a single line as an illogical point without any reason is rude. And failure of not even respecting what one of her own members valued was rude. I tried to hold my best to be professional, though it was replied with constant rudeness. I have my limits, she has passed them. Regardless, I'm sure that could of been something that should of been sent through a private message. As I stated beforehand, if anyone has anything to add, please do so by private message. |
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| bugashi | Sep 6 2007, 09:06:12 PM Post #30 |
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She isn't a mod, but she has a point. If you want to reminisce about your days at BC, do it in a PM. We have a topic that gives the short form of the story, so check it out if you want. Also, this is a no flame zone, so keep those to PM's as well. I'm sure you know how to use them, so please do if you have any questions. |
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