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oncetherewasaway	Mar 21 2007, 06:36 AM
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]PODCAST[/size] "Scars and Souvenirs" - 3/20/07 Podcast - "Scars and Souvenirs" 3/20/07 With us is the lovely and talented Debra Cahn who are very happy to have with us today because she actually wrote the episode that we are going to be discussing in excruciating detail for you which is called Scars and Souvenirs. This episode has probably has one of the most gigantic reveals in the history of the aft mentioned Grey’s Anatomy, which I know there are probably a bunch of different reactions to out there. I know we all went AWWWWW!!! too . I think that retrospect when you go back and look at the episodes leading up to this you can see this coming. It was all over the place, it was all over the place, the two of them, it’s a miracle it didn’t happen before, it’s a miracle they didn’t grab each other in surgery one day. It’s true. The moral of the story of is don’t have friends, cause it just leads to disaster and sex. It that the bad moral or the good moral, cause then the moral of the story have a whole lot of friends cause it involves having a good time and sex. Right. It means there are options everywhere, when in doubt your best friend. That’s definitely something too. I have also sort of felt all the way along for a while now ever since George married Callie, Izzie’s really been tortured, and she hasn’t really didn’t known why. She was evil, but at least now we understand there was a reason. I always felt for her though because even during that early period when she was really being heinous to Callie I still felt for her , because she and George and Cristina and Meredith and Alex to some degree, they were so tight and little by little this season, everything has been splitting them up and separating them and you kind of get she is feeling more and more isolated too this a whole culmination thing. And her guy died and she was grieving and she was alone, yeah because her best friend wasn’t the for her because he marrying some bimbo that she doesn’t really like. That’s absolutely it. And on top of it, you figure Meredith almost died. She almost bought the farm, so that she was the one who was really believing and got through all of that and I think that sort of in a weird way gave her the strength to on some level even subconsciously to go this special place, in the face of death, have sex with anybody who you wanted to and didn’t get to a chance to. And also by the way with a decent amount of bourbon put away, in anticipation of the event. That’s probably had a lot to do with it would be my guess. Callie has a lot of money! While we’re on big surprises on the episode. Callie has a lot of money! What about the fact that she’s a zippo zillion trillion heiress or something. Shonda has been talking about this for a very long time, that Callie was a millionaire. And we were waiting and waiting to go public with it. But you look back and you think, it’s the only reason a girl’s is gonna live in a basement. That’s true. Everybody else is gonna find a way to pull it together. Whereas the girl with the gazzion dollars thinks it’s romantic to live in a basement of the hospital. On some level in some weird way is probably rebelling against all the money and the parents and the whole thing because it like you know, I’m gonna live in basement, I don’t need any of this stuff. I’m gonna pretend I don’t have it. Which is incredibly easy to say when you can, but push comes to shove you can always move into the 4 Seasons fall back position. Now Izzie’s rich they sort of have something in common. I think it’s gonna be interesting to see what happens with George and Callie too at this point. Because with all of this going on.....the fact that he so pissed off at her. He’s very upset. She has been keeping this really big thing from him. Easy to say that I don’t like to talk about my money, it’s family money it’s not my money, it’s really easy to say that when you have money. But to say that to somebody who has always struggled and their family’s always struggled and getting through medical school must have been so hard for him and his folks and everybody. What a slap in the face and then also all of that time because Callie was into him faster and it was easier for her to fall into the relationship and easier for her to fall in love, she was always there first and he was always kind of not up to the mark she was at. She’s always pissed, always irritated with him always mad at him and he was always getting whopped in the nose with a newspaper and was always in trouble, all the time. He didn’t say I love you fast enough. He didn’t want to spend time with her fast enough. There was nothing he could do that was right and after all that, after how many months of apologizing for everything he did in this relationship. For her to have been keeping this massive thing about her life, is just wrong....it’s wrong. When you look at her side of it, which is really interesting and while it works so well, you spent your entire life being judged for something besides who you really are, you carried around as this thing it become this albatross around your neck. It’s colored and contaminated every single relationship you’ve ever had, and that’s awkward between men and women. She finally meets someone she thinks is special and precious and in a weird way for all the amount of grief she gives him, she kinda delicate, you know the relationship is fragile and delicate because I think she is always questioning whether he’s really committed, given the relationship with the friends and everything else. There is something about not telling someone something immediately and then slipping into the habit of never mentioning it. Because its easier that way. In a weird way this way she could live in her own fantasy, which is I am like everybody else, I am just like them. I totally understand her point of view which is you want an equal playing field. Even thought it seems like a great thing if you don’t have it, to her because that the only experience she ever had, it hasn’t been great. And then they got married so fast, what are you gonna do, you’ve got a one hour flight, let’s go through all the horrible things about me I should have said that you didn’t know. That’s like one of my favorite lines that you wrote ....the ferret Is there anything else you don’t have.......yeah I had a ferret, which all of a sudden is what’s great you realize both in this episode and the earlier when he doesn’t know her middle name, how little they actually knew about each other getting into this whole thing, which is kind of intense. No matter how much you know about each other suddenly your faced with the oh my god were gonna be together forever. Oh, I forgot to tell you this and I forgot to tell you this, sure, most of those things aren’t 25 million dollars. But they’re the equivalent depending on what’s important to you. And no matter what you do, you wake after getting married and you think, ‘Wow, there’s this stranger that I’m now gonna be with the rest of my life’ and no matter how well you know them, there’s that moment.....do I really know them or are they a stranger? Burke and Cristina are going through exactly the same things. Which is all the things they’ve issues with are still coming to light now given where they are the relationship, the proposal. And that Cristina seems both into it in this incredible way and ambivalent in a different way. And having Colin show up was like huge, oops, it was a big oops, talking about kinda there being something you left out of your back story. My last boyfriend was also a cardio-thorasic whiz kid and he was my boyfriend and he was my teacher. And we were kind of hanging out for a while, kind of a big deal. So it’s interesting how all of these relationships are going through this, those two specifically, are going through that big special secret that pops out of the cake when your least expecting it, everything I forgot to mention. I gotta say I love the closet scene you wrote, the closet scene where they are both in the closet, and both Meredith’s fake mom and Colin are outside , and they can hear absolutely everything they say. And they’re fighting over closet turf. Because I don’t know if you guys know this, Grey’s Anatomy we really love to put things in closets. We like to put lots conflict scenes in closets and elevators. There’s not a lot of private space in the hospital it’s a big public space, the only people that get privacy are the patients and not really them ‘cause people are putting them in little gowns and looking at their parts. But where you gonna go, where you gonna go in a hospital other than a janitors closet. Now what I want to see, I am anxious to see in the next episode if Colin has the hots for Cristina........but I can’t tell yet. I sort of suspect it, but I can’t tell. He looks a little bummed, he kind of has this deflated look when she says she getting married. But it’s possible.... if he wanted her why didn’t he come get her before, it’s not been a secret where she is. And the truth is he may really, really wants to be chief, it seems like he there to be chief. He’d be a good chief, he kind of blows them out of the water, if I’m Richard I’m picking him. Because why do you want somebody, whose because everyone is gonna be all over each other. It all gonna be competition and backstabbing if one of them wins, and if Derek got to be the boss of Burke...ewww...... about them continually to prove the alpha dog status as opposed to Colin comes in and is totally from some place else and is suave and self assured and has that phenomenal British accent. And we’re so excited because its Roger Rees who we all really like who is playing the part. And people love to listen to people with British accents, people and will take orders from people with British accents. Ten times easier. If somebody comes in and tells me I am really sick, I believe him and exactly do what they say. And plus for some reason I might even feel better to me because they have the British accent. He is also very compelling and I think he would be a really great choice to run the hospital and as you said puts all the other folks in their place in a different kind of way. That I am gonna be interested to see what happens. Ok, I know what happens... but I am really going to be interested in how you guys react to what happens. I thought was really moving and really different is this weird progressing relationship Meredith seems to be having with her dad and with Susan. It’s like Susan is suddenly making it possible for two people who can’t under any circumstances carry on a conversation with each other or even successfully make eye contact, It like Susan has suddenly decided its her mission to get them in the same place and to make it okay. It really difficult because you figure it’s Meredith is still, it’s a really long trip for Meredith to actually trust Thatcher. Meredith she still wants to kill him with a rock, I think. That a really good description because fundamentally he left this kid and never checked on her and never checked her out. And left her basically with the wicked witch of the west, I mean Ellis was like, not exactly the poster child for momdom probably, great surgeon though, an obviously incredibly impressive woman. But he left her and didn’t have the guts to stick up for his kid and moved away and started another family and not even visit or a letter or send a little birthday present, nothing, and he cops to that. He basically gave her his snoring ....that’s the big legacy. So I think that Susan is such a kind hearted and she that kinda that mom you want as a mom, she seems kinda rolls for the punches she probably talks to much and she cooks stuff. She’s the cookies and milk mom. The mom later on when you’re a teenager and you have friends and their parents don’t understand them, you can bring them to your house. It’s the slightly more grown up equivalent of cookies and milk. Susan kind of strikes as that kinda mom who rolls with the punches and Meredith has never had this in her life, which an adult who actually is being kinda cool to her, and kind of accepting her for what she is and not pushing her, but hoping these two people can get together. And poor Thatcher no matter how much he wants in his heart to make a connection with poor little Meredith he can’t say anything without putting his foot in his mouth. And way in. Way, way in. And you think on Thatcher point how scared he must of been of Ellis. You know how frightened made of him that he didn’t have the confidence to actually seek out his daughter and how bad he must felt about that. My favorite thing about that, is the scene when Thatcher goes off to fix the fuse and Derek comes in, and there’s great scene where the two of them are talking and they totally get each other. They totally get each other. Thatcher gets Derek in a way nobody does, no because he understand the life of a surgeon, but he also understand what it’s like to actually date a Grey. Yeah, love a Grey, which by the way, not an easy job, not the easiest thing in the world. No, no. Wouldn’t thinks so. So, I’m going to be interested to see if Susan can do anything can do to change this. Interesting to see a little bit of Derek’s past come back with his friend who needed surgery. Oh how cool was she! And by the way one of my favorite actresses, just incredible. Amazing and incredible, incredible to watch her work she was inspiring and so elegant. And I believe that she knew him for a long period of time and they have a huge history together. And he just went to this thing, he watched Meredith almost die in his arms. He’s almost a PTSD state, like he’s still rattled and shaken by the whole thing in a way that Meredith seems she isn’t. And here’s this person, here’s this other woman that comes in who he loves like a sister, and they were old friends and they know each other and he is been her doctor for so long. The notion she is going to let go of life in the way the Meredith almost did, is just way, way, way too much for him to handle. And so he turns into, it’s almost like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde thing, he turns into this bad surgeon Derek, he forcing this surgery. Its over the line a little bit, but he cant handle the notion that another women who he cares deeply about might go away. He can’t handle it, it’s just too much. So we’ve got another episode coming up after this one but we’re not going to tell you very much about it because we like to make you wait. But there’s some really, really good stuff in it. And I think we will find out what exactly happened in the mystery bed of Special Bourbon............ that’s a morning after worth tuning in for. It’s going to be worth everyone’s time and effort.


SCARS AND SOUVENIERS EPPY 318 · SEASON 3